I'm not sure I said that exactly but if I did, I'll withdraw it, and still, if we don't know what a clean winner would say about doping, it's not logically correct to claim Froome's comments aren't what a clean winner would say either.
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Who said the following:Dalakhani said:If they were providing us with a description of how they legitimately improved over the winter of 2011-2012 in the case of Wiggins, and just before the 2011 Vuelta in the case of Froome, I'm sure we'd find it fascinating.
''Our team is too serious to be burdened with gratitious statements. There are no medicines used in our team except for a riders recuperation. It is the
well-runned organization, sophisticated programs, training camps,
team spirit, the titanium bikes that weigh two kilograms less than normal, in short, the serious attention for all parts of the trade that has brought us our succes.''
Fearless Greg Lemond said:''Our team is too serious to be burdened with gratitious statements. There are no medicines used in our team except for a riders recuperation. It is the
well-runned organization, sophisticated programs, training camps,
team spirit, the titanium bikes that weigh two kilograms less than normal, in short, the serious attention for all parts of the trade that has brought us our succes.''
spalco said:I'm not sure I said that exactly but if I did, I'll withdraw it, and still, if we don't know what a clean winner would say about doping, it's not logically correct to claim Froome's comments aren't what a clean winner would say either.
andy1234 said:Agreed, its as fecking absurd as all the pro Armstrong stuff spouted back in the day.
The Hitch said:To offer an analogy if someone responded to all questions in a police investigation with - suck my ****, would you argue that we don't know how an innocent person would conduct themselves in such an interview?
del1962 said:Boardman was clean like Lemond
Benotti69 said:Says the poster who swears that Boardman who rode and won during the darkest EPO days was clean
Cool - can you name some others, that did what LeMond did, clean?andy1234 said:I'm tired of explaining the meaning of my posts to you.
If English isn't your first language, then take a bit more time to comprehend what I am saying. If English is your first language, then I can't help you being a dimwit.
However, one last time....
LeMond wasn't unique. There were equally talented riders before, and after him.
Holding him up as the only rider capable of achieving what he did, clean, is bulls**t. Got it?
Dr. Maserati said:Cool - can you name some others, that did what LeMond did, clean?
The Hitch said:Yes you can read into froomes comments. For one they tell us he is not someone committed to clean sport. For the sake of argument assuming he was clean it would be purely on a - why dope if i can crush anyone clean basis. He clearly doesn't give 2 ****s about whether the sport is actually clean because he makes no effort to help it in that direction (despite the immense power he has) since he just wants everyone to forget about doping and not talk about it rather than actually confronting it.
Anyway a normal clean winner (normal as in someone who possesses common sense) would not talk the way froome does. I don't know why you keep saying they would.
To offer an analogy if someone responded to all questions in a police investigation with - suck my ****, would you argue that we don't know how an innocent person would conduct themselves in such an interview?
andy1234 said:I'm tired of explaining the meaning of my posts to you.
If English isn't your first language, then take a bit more time to comprehend what I am saying. If English is your first language, then I can't help you being a dimwit.
However, one last time....
LeMond wasn't unique. There were equally talented riders before, and after him.
Holding him up as the only rider capable of achieving what he did, clean, is bulls**t. Got it?
andy1234 said:I'm tired of explaining the meaning of my posts to you.
If English isn't your first language, then take a bit more time to comprehend what I am saying. If English is your first language, then I can't help you being a dimwit.
However, one last time....
LeMond wasn't unique. There were equally talented riders before, and after him.
Holding him up as the only rider capable of achieving what he did, clean, is bulls**t. Got it?
Taxus4a said:I know clean riders, and when you talk with them they dont wanted Lance banned Tours, or just to be always talking about doping, he talk about when his mates doped as normal, he just choose another way.
For me was quite amazing.
anyway froome has been always very clear and commited about doping in jis statements, since Dueñas affair and later.
What he has to say in yor opinion?
Read what I wrote - I put the comma there on purpose and I am curious who these other people are who achieved what he did, clean.JRanton said:How do we know LeMond was clean?
Dr. Maserati said:Cool - can you name some others, that did what LeMond did, clean?
andy1234 said:I'm tired of explaining the meaning of my posts to you.
If English isn't your first language, then take a bit more time to comprehend what I am saying.
However, one last time....
LeMond wasn't unique. There were equally talented riders before, and after him.
Holding him up as the only rider capable of achieving what he did, clean, is bulls**t. Got it?
Riders who have won the tour since the 80s, and never been charged with doping. Hinault, Sastre, Evans and Wiggins.
Show me proof they were doping, and they can be removed from the list....
JRanton said:I agree on LeMond but it's also bull**** to claim that Boardman was clean.
andy1234 said:Riders who have won the tour since the 80s, and never been charged with doping. Hinault, Sastre, Evans and Wiggins.
Show me proof they were doping, and they can be removed from the list....
Unless you are engaging in your normal pedantry, in which case, no one has achieved EXACTLY what LeMond has.
Benotti69 said:Why is LeMond's performance held up by the likes of JV, Brailsford and all who proclaim cycling is cleanER as the bench mark of the peak of clean ability?
Evans clean, nope.
Wiggins, hahahahahahaha!!!!
Sastre, nope.
Hinault, nope.
andy1234 said:To quote the LeMond defenders....
Show me a single shred of proof......