Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Bexon30]

Froome is 100% cleared of his disease according to the independent and Eurosport. First time he's been given the all clear!

 

[straitjacker]

So his blood parameters should stabilize now, and in couple of years his performance should decline?

 

[nomapnocompass]

Froome is 100% cleared of his disease according to the independent and Eurosport. First time he's been given the all clear!

- So he has had some some form of clinically detectable schistosomiasis not treatable by praziquantel for the past three to four years? Anyone with any familiarity with tropical disease will tell you that statement is pure nonsense and spin.

 

[Digger]

- So he has had some some form of clinically detectable schistosomiasis not treatable by praziquantel for the past three to four years? Anyone with any familiarity with tropical disease will tell you that statement is pure nonsense and spin.

Can you go into further detail there please - just for laypeople.

 

[the sceptic]

lol I bet it was Walsh that cured in on their trip to Kenya together.

I guess this means Froome will become even better now. The excuse is ready for even more mutant performances.

Froome climbed faster than Riis? Yes, but Walsh and Kerrison says it possible for clean athletes that dont have bilharzia anymore.

 

[thehog]

lol I bet it was Walsh that cured in on their trip to Kenya together.

I guess this means Froome will become even better now. The excuse is ready for even more mutant performances.

Froome climbed faster than Riis? Yes, but Walsh and Kerrison says it possible for clean athletes that dont have bilharzia anymore.

Walsh says it eats read blood cells and can never be cured.

How's that passport looking? Must have flatlined!

 

[Bexon30]

Walsh says it eats read blood cells and can never be cured.

How's that passport looking? Must have flatlined!

Aye, there'll be no 3rd week fatigue now for Christopher. 10 minute demolition come July. I'm glad he's been cured I mean competing at a disadvantage isn't fair on the lad. Walsh missed the target by a mile with this one.

 

[thehog]

Aye, there'll be no 3rd week fatigue now for Christopher. 10 minute demolition come July. I'm glad he's been cured I mean competing at a disadvantage isn't fair on the lad. Walsh missed the target by a mile with this one.

Walsh was smart enough to ask about the TUE but not the passport on this RBC eating disease.

That he didn't know he had!

 

[D-Queued]

Walsh was smart enough to ask about the TUE but not the passport on this RBC eating disease.

That he didn't know he had!

Good quote.

The existence of the incurable disease is easily ratified?

Except, of course, when we have another cycling miracle.

Hoorah for cycling miracles.

Dave.

 

[mewmewmew13]

"For Chris Froome it was something to be ridden through"

hogwash!!

reminds me of Lance's 'large lungs'
*retch*

 

[Bag_O_Wallet]

Walsh was smart enough to ask about the TUE but not the passport on this RBC eating disease.

That he didn't know he had!

Wow, Walsh sure paints Froome as being quite ignorant. I bet you his results really turned around when he got some one to:

"...bring all the right people together for him, and basically co-ordinate his life. He likes to know everything is ticking over so he can concentrate on racing.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/tour-de-france/10196367/How-Chris-Froomes-feisty-fiancee-is-the-power-behind-his-throne.html

Hmm, the article says they were living in Monaco together by 2011.

Must be all those sticky notes saying:
Don't forget your cycling shoes, Chris. <3 <3 <3

 

[the sceptic]

Do the brits even care about Dawg? 6th in SPOTY behind 3 people ive never heard of before.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Do the brits even care about Dawg? 6th in SPOTY behind 3 people ive never heard of before.

Lol that's quite sad

 

[The Hitch]

Do the brits even care about Dawg? 6th in SPOTY behind 3 people ive never heard of before.

Skys rise to domination has been so dominant there has been no - get to know and appreciate the sport stage.

Most who celebrate their success hadn't really watched much of the tour before.

Wiggins won last year and the Olympics- it was the first British victory ever even if it only took sky 2 years, many thought- maybe he really was this absolute hero for the nation, but this year a new Briton is able to destroy all those foreigners with just as much ease, it creates the impression that the tdf is kinda easy.

 

[Catwhoorg]

First British winner of the men singles in 77 years ?

Never a chance anyone but Murray would get it this year.

 

[MatParker117]

Skys rise to domination has been so dominant there has been no - get to know and appreciate the sport stage.

Most who celebrate their success hadn't really watched much of the tour before.

Wiggins won last year and the Olympics- it was the first British victory ever even if it only took sky 2 years, many thought- maybe he really was this absolute hero for the nation, but this year a new Briton is able to destroy all those foreigners with just as much ease, it creates the impression that the tdf is kinda easy.

Imagine if Geraint Thomas ever repeats his Junior Paris-Roubaix win at senior level and follows that up with a Flanders and then Froome goes nuts in the ardenness.

 

[thehog]

Imagine if Geraint Thomas ever repeats his Junior Paris-Roubaix win at senior level and follows that up with a Flanders and then Froome goes nuts in the ardenness.

I know. Just imagine.

Kerrison can program them all in at 460w with auto-tailwind function enabled.

Good times.

 

[The Hitch]

First British winner of the men singles in 77 years ?

Never a chance anyone but Murray would get it this year.

I didn't see anyone say they expected froome to win it. Read carefully it was abiut him coming 6th.

Since your here though I am curious how you reconcile your comments that you believe Wiggins was clean in 2012 because he won on a route that suited him, with your opinion that Wiggins would have won the 2011 tdf which was probably the least suited tdf route ever for Wiggins.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I didn't see anyone say they expected froome to win it. Read carefully it was abiut him coming 6th.

Since your here though I am curious how you reconcile your comments that you believe Wiggins was clean in 2012 because he won on a route that suited him, with your opinion that Wiggins would have won the 2011 tdf which was probably the least suited tdf route ever for Wiggins.

You agree 2012 was very much his cup of tea? Long ITTS, climbs that were more consistent than explosive. Evans off form. Andy off form. No Contador. Nibali a challenge, but 2012 Nibali wasn't the same as the 2013 Nibali.
I think saying he was doping because of his 2012 win is ignoring those basic points.

In 2011 he wasn't as good as 2012, but he was capable of climbing with Evans. (see the Dauphine results basically they went about the on the climbs.) and certainly could lay down a better ITT than him. With Both Evans and Wiggo (and their teams) working together to limit losses to the more explosive climbers, it would have been a little harder for those climbers to gain big time.

The only question in my mind, was could he have held form for 3 weeks, and could he replicate the Alpine form shown in the Pyrenees.
Certainly a year later he could, but that's the big unknown and will remain such.
As I said I think he would have podiumed for sure, and was in with a shout of winning the overall.

I believe his 2011 form is more open to question than his 2012, mainly because that to me was his real breakout year. 2009 was a lucky break that got him up there, then it was try to hang on.

2012 of course he was lucky to win Gold at the Olympics. An on form Tony would have won that, and Cancellara would have done better but for that incident in the RR I think.

Luck sometimes in your favour, sometimes not.

He still is an ****%%*, but I feel a clean one. (and no I cannot prove that, its a feeling)

 

[roundabout]

He beat Cancellara in 2011 and 2013, what makes you think that he could not have done the same in 2012 without Cancellara falling?

And what lucky break are you talking about in 2009? Verbier and especially LGB stage were real eye-openers.

Edit: and Evans was much better in the Tour than the Dauphine. A minute faster in the TT despite some massive rides in the stages before is proof of that.

 

[The Hitch]

You agree 2012 was very much his cup of tea? Long ITTS, climbs that were more consistent than explosive. Evans off form. Andy off form. No Contador. Nibali a challenge, but 2012 Nibali wasn't the same as the 2013 Nibali.
I think saying he was doping because of his 2012 win is ignoring those basic points.

In 2011 he wasn't as good as 2012, but he was capable of climbing with Evans. (see the Dauphine results basically they went about the on the climbs.) and certainly could lay down a better ITT than him. With Both Evans and Wiggo (and their teams) working together to limit losses to the more explosive climbers, it would have been a little harder for those climbers to gain big time.

The only question in my mind, was could he have held form for 3 weeks, and could he replicate the Alpine form shown in the Pyrenees.
Certainly a year later he could, but that's the big unknown and will remain such.
As I said I think he would have podiumed for sure, and was in with a shout of winning the overall.

I believe his 2011 form is more open to question than his 2012, mainly because that to me was his real breakout year. 2009 was a lucky break that got him up there, then it was try to hang on.

2012 of course he was lucky to win Gold at the Olympics. An on form Tony would have won that, and Cancellara would have done better but for that incident in the RR I think.

Luck sometimes in your favour, sometimes not.

He still is an ****%%*, but I feel a clean one. (and no I cannot prove that, its a feeling)

What lucky break in 2009? Wiggins didnt get into no break.

if anything it was a lucky break that stopped him from finishing even higher -3rd, cos Armstrong unlike wiggins actually did get a lucky break and a ttt advantage.

He rode the whole thing from the peloton same as all the other contenders.

Took on the dopers in one of the most dodgy tours in history, lost to a few of them, beat a bunch of others - Frank, Kloeden, Kreuziger, Astaroloza, fair and square.

So what lucky break? If anything 2009 shows that wiggins, if clean as you believe, probably was the best gt rider since Hinault, cos he beat with ease a bunch of top gt contenders on full time blood programmes.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Do the brits even care about Dawg? 6th in SPOTY behind 3 people ive never heard of before.

Bradley Wiggins was winning Olympic medals a few years ago and with the distinctive appearance with the sideburns and the foul-mouthed rants he is a lot more recognizable and interesting to the media than Froome who, while seemingly a nicer and more respectful guy, comes across as pretty bland and dull. The average man in the street probably knew who he was in 2012 a lot more than the average man in the street knows who Chris Froome is right now.

 

[thehog]

The Dawg is beige. He's needs some Ricco styled street cred.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Froome. The new ecru...

 

[Avoriaz]

Do the brits even care about Dawg? 6th in SPOTY behind 3 people ive never heard of before.

•Murray: 401,470
•Halfpenny: 65,913
•McCoy: 57,854
•Mo Farah: 51,945
•Ben Ainslie: 48,140
•Chris Froome: 37,343
•Hannah Cockroft: 26,151
•Christine Ohuruogu: 13,179
•Justin Rose: 9,833
•Ian Bell: 5,626
•Total votes: 717,454

Crushing win for Murray in % terms, but Wiggins actually polled 90,000 more votes to win in 2012 where over 1.6m people voted. I guess the high voting numbers was down to the Olympic year effect.

Not sure which are the two you haven't heard of, but sixth is actually higher than I expected for him.

You'll know Murray. Leigh Halfpenny was the rugby union full back whose near flawless kicking ensured a Lions victory down in Australia; AP McCoy is a previous SPOTY winner who rode his 4000th winner this year; Mo Farah gets mentioned on here a lot so I'm sure you've heard of him; and Ben Ainslie is a multi gold medal winning Olympian who was part of the Americas Cup team that came from nothing to winning. I would have thought Ohurugo would have beaten Froome too, but I guess the athletics fans all voted for Mo.

All the Scots voted for Murray, all the Welsh for Halfpenny, and all the irish for McCoy. meanwhile, the African vote was split between Farah (Somalian), Froome (Kenyan), Rose (S Africa)