Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[thehog]

gheezus I will bet that Michelle wasn't too happy when she read this quote

The analogy is stupider on the Dawg.

When people are presented with an opportunity to cheat and be successful they do one or two things.

1. They chest and become prosperous or 2. Just keep doing what they're doing and not cheat.

They don't make some earth shattering, life changing moment to give it up and "clean factory floors". It's not as dramatic as that.

And that's why the decision to chest is so easy. You just do it.

 

[SundayRider]

The Dawg is out of control, someone needs to press the reset button before its too late.

 

[Ferminal]

The 3 point plan to winning the Tour:



And cleans!

Lose a bit if weight, different race tactics and be healthy! Simples!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...nt-to-win-multiple-Tour-de-France-titles.html

Good on him for not perpetuating the "superior coaching" BS.

 

[SundayRider]

The analogy is stupider on the Dawg.

When people are presented with an opportunity to cheat and be successful they do one or two things.

1. They chest and become prosperous or 2. Just keep doing what they're doing and not cheat.

They don't make some earth shattering, life changing moment to give it up and "clean factory floors". It's not as dramatic as that.

And that's why the decision to chest is so easy. You just do it.

Good on him for not perpetuating the "superior coaching" BS.

Tactics are easy when you are so much stronger than everyone else.

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh, well I'm not sure anyone falls for that one it's more of a joke, but the Sky superiority myth is believable.

 

[ebandit]

bot 4u

I like that this thread has now become vortex proof and skybot free.

even skybots have a limited attention span............meanwhile the clinic goes

on..........and on

but froomey is wrong to suggest that observers no longer should be

discussing doping............ok there may have been improvements but

it's no time for complacency

Mark L

 

[Benotti69]

Eufemiano ‏@oufeh 55m
Ventoux 2013 : Froome put 100 seconds into Contador and co in 20 minutes. That's 8% more power. Just unbelievable.

10chara...

 

[LaFlorecita]

10chara...

Lol

If Contador pushed 5.5 W/kg does that mean Froome pushed 0.5 W/kg more (asking because I'm not sure)

 

[ebandit]

forget the technical stuff

gone

 

[doolols]

I like that this thread has now become vortex proof and skybot free. Speaks volumes about the ridiculousness of Froome.

Nothing of the sort. It's just so much fun watching the clinic's buzzards picking over every offhand comment and microcosm of a news story, squawking "cheat" every couple of seconds. Better than Christmas TV, anyway.

 

[Alphabet]

LOL. Let me get this straight. A man who had no problems hacking into someone else's email account so he could commit identity theft would never ever think of doping. Sounds legit.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's this about? Wouldn't identity theft lead to criminal charges?

 

[thehog]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's this about? Wouldn't identity theft lead to criminal charges?

Yes because the Kenyan police have nothing better to do than track down cyclists breaking into kenyancyclingbob734@hotmail.com.

Not much else going on in Kenya for them to do..

 

[red_flanders]

Nothing of the sort. It's just so much fun watching the clinic's buzzards picking over every offhand comment and microcosm of a news story, squawking "cheat" every couple of seconds. Better than Christmas TV, anyway.

There's truth in that. However, what you're describing is a reaction. A reaction to the Sky PR machine blathering how every offhand comment somehow is evidence of Froome being clean. BS always gets a reaction.

 

[Clausfarre]

Nothing of the sort. It's just so much fun watching the clinic's buzzards picking over every offhand comment and microcosm of a news story, squawking "cheat" every couple of seconds. Better than Christmas TV, anyway.

The Clinic. This is the Clinic.

When what is either an obvious cheater or a miracle athlete delivers an interview with ridiculous statements, you expect silence from cycling fans? Are you nuts?

So much for the absence of skybots.

 

[The Hitch]

Nothing of the sort. It's just so much fun watching the clinic's buzzards picking over every offhand comment and microcosm of a news story, squawking "cheat" every couple of seconds. Better than Christmas TV, anyway.

Why do so many Sky fans, resort to ad hominem attacks on the clinic that simply take the form of "oh its so fun to watch you (insert insulting noun) (insert insulting verb) over Sky"

There is a discussion taking place. You want to take part. You have a defense of what Froome is saying? because from where I am standing his comments are absolutely ridiculous and viewed as such not just by people in the clinic. I'm open to having my mind changed on that but so far most Sky comments, like the ones which defended Lance for so many years, seem to taunt the alleged stupidity of the detractors, without really offering an explanation for it, and certainly without taking part in the discussion.

 

[The Hitch]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's this about? Wouldn't identity theft lead to criminal charges?

Yes because the Kenyan police have nothing better to do than track down cyclists breaking into kenyancyclingbob734@hotmail.com.

Not much else going on in Kenya for them to do..

He was asking a question hog. What is it about. Your sarcastic put down doesn't really offer an answer.

You will know better than me the details here, wasn't it that Froome wanted to ride for GB so he hacked into the Kenyan cycling fed email or some such and sent emails to some other governing body reccomending himself for a change of license?

 

[Froome19]

LOL. Let me get this straight. A man who had no problems hacking into someone else's email account so he could commit identity theft would never ever think of doping. Sounds legit.

Sorry, this is blatant trolling. Passing off suspicions as fact.

 

[martinvickers]

He was asking a question hog. What is it about. Your sarcastic put down doesn't really offer an answer.

You will know better than me the details here, wasn't it that Froome wanted to ride for GB so he hacked into the Kenyan cycling fed email or some such and sent emails to some other governing body reccomending himself for a change of license?

""The Kenyans didn't have a team going into the under-23 world championships but I had access to the Kenyan cycling association's email account. I remembered how to get into the chairman's Hotmail and so I emailed the UCI, saying, 'We're going to send a cyclist to the U23 worlds.'""

Froome's ruse worked and when he arrived in Europe "I had to take four buses and walk a couple of ks, carrying two bikes and a suitcase, to a little B&B outside Salzburg – in the rain. I then had to rush to the managers' meeting that afternoon. I had a map and I set off in the rain. The map disintegrated within minutes so I got lost in downtown Salzburg. I came in 20 minutes late to the auditorium where a guy was talking about the support cars. I walked in right at the front and was told, 'No, no, this is a meeting for managers only.' I said, 'I'm the manager.' The guy gave me a strange look."

The next day Froome "got to the startline for the time trial and 150m into the race I rode straight into a commissaire holding a bunch of papers which went flying up in the air. Both of us hit the ground. It was quite a start to European racing."

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jan/25/chris-froome-sky-tour-de-france

 

[BroDeal]

From an early age, even before he turned pro, Froome was willing to do anything to make it as a cyclist. He did not care about breaking rules or the law. The notion that years later, after failing in Europe and with no team willing to give him a contract, he would not dope get some results that would allow him to continue is laughable. It is even more laughable when his lack of ethics is combined with Brailsford's opinion of Froome as someone who is completely motivated by money and could be paid off to excuse Wiggins' lack of support.

 

[veganrob]

The only thing missing from Froomes story is that he walked uphill, all the way. through bad neighborhoods, where his cycling shoes were stolen, his tires slashed, in the rain. The pouring rain. Pouring hard. Harder than ever.

 

[Granville57]

The only thing missing from Froomes story is that he walked uphill, all the way. through bad neighborhoods, where his cycling shoes were stolen, his tires slashed, in the rain. The pouring rain. Pouring hard. Harder than ever.

Now you're just making things up. Please, let's keep the facts straight.

Aged 16, on a Christmas Day trip to the coast with his family, he went for a long run along the beach to burn off the anticipated big lunch.

"As I ran I sort of stumbled, and suddenly I'm stuck in the beach. It was a harpoon, half buried in the sand, and I'd trodden right on it. I sat there and tried to get the harpoon out, but it was wedged so deep. There was a barb on it too, so I couldn't just pull it out."

With the help of a passer-by he managed to snap the harpoon's shaft. With no hospital for miles he struggled to a tiny local clinic, housed in a tin hut harpoon still sticking out of his foot.

"The old chap there looked at it and told me there was no way we could pull it out, because it would do too much damage. We'd have to cut it out, from the middle of my foot up to my toes. He just took a razor blade and cut open my foot. I sat there watching him do it."

He grins faintly. "Not a nice way to spend Christmas. But we still had a good lunch. And it does make temporary pain when climbing a mountain stage like Ventoux seem pretty insignificant."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/24951818

 

[LaFlorecita]

Holy ****.

That's so ridiculous he could not have made it up.

 

[thehog]

The only thing missing from Froomes story is that he walked uphill, all the way. through bad neighborhoods, where his cycling shoes were stolen, his tires slashed, in the rain. The pouring rain. Pouring hard. Harder than ever.

Might be true that he had his cyckijg shoes stolen.

The Dawg apparently rode the Commenweath Games ITT in sand shoes!

David Walsh said so. Must be true.

 

[The Hitch]

Considering froome regularly mixes up several basic details of his bilharzia story, which change from interview to interview, I'm not sure we can really trust such amazingly detailed descriptions of minor events from way way longer ago.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Considering froome regularly mixes up several basic details of his bilharzia story, which change from interview to interview, I'm not sure we can really trust such amazingly detailed descriptions of minor events from way way longer ago.

I see a major doc coming up soon.
Poor boy from Kenya, struggling in Europe, succeeding big time and now giving hope to all Africans.

Sky, BBC or Fox Comm?