Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[PremierAndrew]

If your favourite rider doesn't succeed, queue the salt and head off to the clinic for baseless accusations

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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If your favourite rider doesn't succeed, queue the salt and head off to the clinic for baseless accusations

How ironic you mention salt and Froome, as it's evident you and Froome's salty surprises aren't too far away from each other based on your post history.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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If your favourite rider doesn't succeed, queue the salt and head off to the clinic for baseless accusations

How ironic you mention salt and Froome, as it's evident you and Froome's salty surprises aren't too far away from each other based on your post history.

Well, you made me laugh at least :lol:

Kids these days eh?

 

[bigcog]

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If your favourite rider doesn't succeed, queue the salt and head off to the clinic for baseless accusations

How ironic you mention salt and Froome, as it's evident you and Froome's salty surprises aren't too far away from each other based on your post history.

That's rich coming from you ...

 

[thehog]

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Some funny motor attacks today...the funniest was after Quintana's first attack where he didn't do a single thing different yet glided his way up to him effortlessly. And the out of saddle acceleration was Valverde level batshit crazy.

I'll have to watch again, certainly looked a little odd.

 

[hfer07]

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Some funny motor attacks today...the funniest was after Quintana's first attack where he didn't do a single thing different yet glided his way up to him effortlessly. And the out of saddle acceleration was Valverde level batshit crazy.

I noticed that too- just illogical to watch a Quintana putting attacks that get countered with such ease, considering Froome, at this point should be fading.......

not normal

 

[Zypherov]

I can see Froome winning this Vuelta by putting enough time into Quintana in the Time Trial.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Some funny motor attacks today...the funniest was after Quintana's first attack where he didn't do a single thing different yet glided his way up to him effortlessly. And the out of saddle acceleration was Valverde level batshit crazy.

I noticed that too- just illogical to watch a Quintana putting attacks that get countered with such ease, considering Froome, at this point should be fading.......

not normal

What's more is that he actually looked to be fading..others were responding and he was slightly slipping back, then out of nowhere with no change in cadence or anything he glides up to him like he was on a cable car wire.

 

[Amnes2015]

some people start to see "gliding"
what can you respond to that
except lol

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

Some funny motor attacks today...the funniest was after Quintana's first attack where he didn't do a single thing different yet glided his way up to him effortlessly. And the out of saddle acceleration was Valverde level batshit crazy.

I noticed that too- just illogical to watch a Quintana putting attacks that get countered with such ease, considering Froome, at this point should be fading.......

not normal

And Quintana shouldn't?

 

[thehog]

Movistar Doctor calling out Froome...

 

[BullsFan22]

I want to see Froomey go for all three GT's next season. Wouldn't that be a real hoot!?!

 

[thehog]

From the radio interview with Movistar doctor, calling out what's been said for some time now, just not in public.

http://alacarta.caracol.com.co/audio/1472932330_939766/

 

[Zypherov]

From the radio interview with Movistar doctor, calling out what's been said for some time now, just not in public.

http://alacarta.caracol.com.co/audio/1472932330_939766/

These statements are a reiteration of the sentiments that are expressed throughout this thread and beyond.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Movistar's doctor thinks that 30% of the peloton dope? I guess that's from personal experience? :lol:

 

[snccdcno]

For clarity (not because I disagree with his comments) but is this guy a doctor on the Movistar team or the continental team http://www.procyclingstats.com/team.php?id=2650&season=2016

 

[wrinklyvet]

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For clarity (not because I disagree with his comments) but is this guy a doctor on the Movistar team or the continental team http://www.procyclingstats.com/team.php?id=2650&season=2016

https://twitter.com/jaimeandresroa

jaimeandresroa.com
@jaimeandresroa

Médico del Deporte/Sports Medicine Physician. Médico/Team Doctor Movistar Team America 2016. Médico/Team Doctor América de Cali 2015.
Cali, Colombia
jaimeandresroa.com
Joined November 2010

 

[ontheroad]

At long last some proper bad blood between top riders and this will change the landscape and make the rivalry a lot more interesting. I'd say Quintana has realised that he has tried everything but no matter what he throws at Froome it is never good enough. Froome to me can turn the gas on and off whenever he wants. He desperately wants to win but he is also clever enough to keep it real when he has to. A case in point was today when it looked as though Froome easily had Quintanas number yet failed to put in an attack of his own. He knows if he keeps the gap within 90 seconds that he can win it in the time trial by a small margin. It doesn't look as blatantly dominant doing it that way.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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At long last some proper bad blood between top riders and this will change the landscape and make the rivalry a lot more interesting. I'd say Quintana has realised that he has tried everything but no matter what he throws at Froome it is never good enough. Froome to me can turn the gas on and off whenever he wants. He desperately wants to win but he is also clever enough to keep it real when he has to. A case in point was today when it looked as though Froome easily had Quintanas number yet failed to put in an attack of his own. He knows if he keeps the gap within 90 seconds that he can win it in the time trial by a small margin. It doesn't look as blatantly dominant doing it that way.

Ironically, if he hadn't done that, he might have been a two time Tour winner today instead of three

Anyway, I wonder what the Movistar team doctor makes of Valverde's season long peak

 

[snccdcno]

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For clarity (not because I disagree with his comments) but is this guy a doctor on the Movistar team or the continental team http://www.procyclingstats.com/team.php?id=2650&season=2016

https://twitter.com/jaimeandresroa

jaimeandresroa.com
@jaimeandresroa

Médico del Deporte/Sports Medicine Physician. Médico/Team Doctor Movistar Team America 2016. Médico/Team Doctor América de Cali 2015.
Cali, Colombia
jaimeandresroa.com
Joined November 2010

OK so that would suggest that he is the doctor not on the world tour team but the continental team and those teams don't have links anymore afaik ('m open to correction here btw)

 

[ontheroad]

Re: Re:

At long last some proper bad blood between top riders and this will change the landscape and make the rivalry a lot more interesting. I'd say Quintana has realised that he has tried everything but no matter what he throws at Froome it is never good enough. Froome to me can turn the gas on and off whenever he wants. He desperately wants to win but he is also clever enough to keep it real when he has to. A case in point was today when it looked as though Froome easily had Quintanas number yet failed to put in an attack of his own. He knows if he keeps the gap within 90 seconds that he can win it in the time trial by a small margin. It doesn't look as blatantly dominant doing it that way.

Ironically, if he hadn't done that, he might have been a two time Tour winner today instead of three

Anyway, I wonder what the Movistar team doctor makes of Valverde's season long peak

I'm not with you here, explain. If he hadn't been told to reign himself in he'd be a 4 time winner!

 

[ontheroad]

Re: Re:

At long last some proper bad blood between top riders and this will change the landscape and make the rivalry a lot more interesting. I'd say Quintana has realised that he has tried everything but no matter what he throws at Froome it is never good enough. Froome to me can turn the gas on and off whenever he wants. He desperately wants to win but he is also clever enough to keep it real when he has to. A case in point was today when it looked as though Froome easily had Quintanas number yet failed to put in an attack of his own. He knows if he keeps the gap within 90 seconds that he can win it in the time trial by a small margin. It doesn't look as blatantly dominant doing it that way.

Ironically, if he hadn't done that, he might have been a two time Tour winner today instead of three

Anyway, I wonder what the Movistar team doctor makes of Valverde's season long peak

I'm not with you here, explain. If he hadn't been told to reign himself in he'd be a 4 time winner!

Team orders in 2012 when he was instructed reluctantly to sit up for Wiggins when he was clearly the best climber and would have won the tour but Brailsford had it earmarked for Wiggins.

Now what did you mean by your previous comment saying he'd only have 2 tours....

 

[PremierAndrew]

That's a photo of him at the finish line at PSM back in 2015, which was by far the most ridiculous Froome/Sky performance to date, and made Ax 3 and Ventoux look believable. It wasn't anywhere near close to 'keeping it real'. But then if he hadn't put in such a ridiculous performance and crushed everyone's morale, especially Quintana, Quintana may well have ended up winning that Tour.

As for Froome being better than Wiggins in 2012, well no doubts who the better climber was but it's debatable as to whether Froome had enough in the locker to make up for the difference in ability in the 100kms of TTing

 

[hfer07]

Re: Re:

Some funny motor attacks today...the funniest was after Quintana's first attack where he didn't do a single thing different yet glided his way up to him effortlessly. And the out of saddle acceleration was Valverde level batshit crazy.

I noticed that too- just illogical to watch a Quintana putting attacks that get countered with such ease, considering Froome, at this point should be fading.......

not normal

And Quintana shouldn't?

That's not the matter --- Froome should have been fading SOONER or showing signs of fading, since he won Le Tour and right after did the Olympics RR & ITT, whereas Quintana didn't do any racing at all after his Tour podium, thus being "fresher" than the Kenyan.....

Froome is simply applying the "sat on the saddle Turbo" to match up Quintana........

just ridiculous.......

 

[The Hitch]

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That's a photo of him at the finish line at PSM back in 2015, which was by far the most ridiculous Froome/Sky performance to date, and made Ax 3 and Ventoux look believable. It wasn't anywhere near close to 'keeping it real'. But then if he hadn't put in such a ridiculous performance and crushed everyone's morale, especially Quintana, Quintana may well have ended up winning that Tour.

As for Froome being better than Wiggins in 2012, well no doubts who the better climber was but it's debatable as to whether Froome had enough in the locker to make up for the difference in ability in the 100kms of TTing

As ridiculous as wiggins was in 12, froome had 40% of his deficit to wiggins come from a puncture. Take that away and Wiggos time trial benefit is under 2 minutes.

You don't think Froome takes back 2 minutes over an entire Tour? When he doesn't have to waste so much energy riding for Wiggins.

No chance. on a level playing field, froome wins that 100 times out of 100