Future GT Winner (Edition 2016)

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Who will win a Grand Tour?

  • Adam Yates

    Votes: 32 21.2%
  • Esteban Chaves

    Votes: 74 49.0%
  • Miguel Ángel López

    Votes: 47 31.1%
  • Mikel Landa

    Votes: 44 29.1%
  • Rafal Majka

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • Richie Porte

    Votes: 14 9.3%
  • Romain Bardet

    Votes: 33 21.9%
  • Steven Kruijswijk

    Votes: 30 19.9%
  • Thibaut Pinot

    Votes: 15 9.9%
  • Tom Dumoulin

    Votes: 45 29.8%

  • Total voters
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May 3, 2010
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Yes, I also heard that Chaves was ill during the last days of the Giro. It's impossible to judge these things just on what is said in the media, but he proved in the Vuelta that he can be strong in the final stages..
 
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Pantani_lives said:
Yes, I also heard that Chaves was ill during the last days of the Giro. It's impossible to judge these things just on what is said in the media, but he proved in the Vuelta that he can be strong in the final stages..
Yes, bronchitis apparently.
 
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How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!
 
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Mr.White said:
How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!

Every rider suffers misfortunes, just some more than others. Contador crashed out of the tour in 2014 and 2016. Yes, that's different from being sick but they are both due to rotten luck. Yes, you can often times avoid crashes through situational awareness and positioning just like how you can avoid being ill (i'm not sure how a rider would do that, but you seem to be insinuating that is possible).
 
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Mr.White said:
How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!
Wasn't Valverde sick by the end of Tour 2014?
 
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Alexandre B. said:
Mr.White said:
How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!
Wasn't Valverde sick by the end of Tour 2014?

Maybe he was, but he never said so...
 
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Alexandre B. said:
Mr.White said:
How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!
Wasn't Valverde sick by the end of Tour 2014?

I think he was just out of form.
 
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Durden93 said:
Mr.White said:
How the hell Contador or Valverde, or any of those older guys were never sick?! Or they never talk about that? These younger generations could learn a thing or two from their older colleagues. Shut up and ride, let the legs do the talking!

Every rider suffers misfortunes, just some more than others. Contador crashed out of the tour in 2014 and 2016. Yes, that's different from being sick but they are both due to rotten luck. Yes, you can often times avoid crashes through situational awareness and positioning just like how you can avoid being ill (i'm not sure how a rider would do that, but you seem to be insinuating that is possible).

I'm talking about whining here! I'm talking about finding excuses
 
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Durden93 said:
Yes, that's different from being sick but they are both due to rotten luck.
Disagree completely. Getting sick is a clear sign your body is weak. All riders get in touch with countless bacteria and viruses during a three week race. Some of them get sick, some others don't. It's not a matter of luck, it's a matter of recovery and stamina.

No wonder the best GT riders rarely get sick. How many times have Contador, Nibali and Froome abandon a GT for illness?
 
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SafeBet said:
Durden93 said:
Yes, that's different from being sick but they are both due to rotten luck.
Disagree completely. Getting sick is a clear sign your body is weak. All riders get in touch with countless bacteria and viruses during a three week race. Some of them get sick, some others don't. It's not a matter of luck, it's a matter of recovery and stamina.

No wonder the best GT riders rarely get sick. How many times have Contador, Nibali and Froome abandon a GT for illness?
What about hayfever? Gastro from poor hotel food? Getting sick from a soigneur or teammate? Not dressing correctly for a cold day?

It's not necessarily about recovery and stamina. Experience? Probably, as you race more you get better at minimising your chances, but getting sick isn't necessarily a sign of weakness.
 
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Superman Lopez and Soviet MOFO Zaka do it for me.
I'm also starting to like Mr. Yates so hell yeah.
 
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Bob Jungels :p
Dumoulin showed how that it is possible to convert from a mainly TT-guy into a contender. So in 2-3 years? Why not. Look where Dumoulin was 2 years ago? He finished 6th in the Vuelta. Jungels was now 6th and 8th in the Giro.
 
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I think Lopez will definitely win one, the ceiling is just too high. Chaves and Landa and are up in the air, I don't see Pinot, Bardet, Kruijswijk and Porte winning without some really good luck while I definitely can't see Majka and Yates winning one, especially not the former who quite frankly doesnt belong on this list.
 
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Tonton said:
staubsauger said:
I'll have to wait for next year's Giro as long as Lavenu's wisely!

Lavenu...you mean Madiot right :) ?
I think he voted Bardet! ;) Bardet is gotta be even better than Quintana in the mountains relative to the competition as his time trial quite frankly is non-existent, but you never know, of course.