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scullster46 said:
absolutely. East Africa could become the new Colombia :D

In all seriousness though, there is a large talent pool there, and as a competitive runner I'm very interested in seeing how much of their running talent transfers to cycling.

eritrea doesn't have any running talent. they only care about cycling but have of course same talent as ethiopians or kenyans to say the least. high altitude and thin bodys
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
eritrea doesn't have any running talent. they only care about cycling but have of course same talent as ethiopians or kenyans to say the least. high altitude and thin bodys

Eritrea has plenty of running talent, ever hear of Zersenay Tadesse? One of the only people to ever beat Bekele. Meb Keflezighi is also from Eritrea. They are arguably the third best long distance running country.
 
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I wonder whether there might be some talent from Algeria soon as well. Youcef Reguigui certainly looks to be a bit talented although perhaps not hugely so.
 
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Luke Schmid said:
I wonder whether there might be some talent from Algeria soon as well. Youcef Reguigui certainly looks to be a bit talented although perhaps not hugely so.

morocco same thing

azedine lagab is probbaly the best from there but already 24 I think
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
natnael berhane has way more talent imo and is lot younger. eritrea will be a factor in future cycling in europe

For once, I agree with you.
Berhane was almost without support in the U23 Worlds, went on the attack in the final, and still finished 18th in the sprint after being caught.
All his companions from the late attack were gone from the peloton by the finish.

But the argument that "Berhane has more talent than Teklehaimanot" is like saying Fränk Schleck isn't any good, because his younger brother is better.
Teklehaimanot is still a very good rider, and will get his name out there next year - in one way or another.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
morocco same thing

azedine lagab is probbaly the best from there but already 24 I think

Lagab is the best, 25 I think now but Reguigui looks reasonable and they have a new continental team this year which is all but 1, 19 and 20 year olds so maybe something will come from that as well.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
none of them are really big talents other than perhaps mikel landa. he is only guy that can make it from that list. maybe simon... but I have doubts. others shouldn't even be mentioned. I remenber some years ago the huge intxausti hype and he had big talent. more than any other spanish rider but he so far has been very disapointing and name me a big young spanish talent that broke through in recent years? I can't remember one

I thought maybe simon, but i have doubts too. we'll see.

Landa looks good I agree.

But anyway a lot of these guys can devolep much better later in careers.
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
I thought maybe simon, but i have doubts too. we'll see.

Landa looks good I agree.

But anyway a lot of these guys can devolep much better later in careers.

agreed, there will always be a mosquera with so many spanish pro riders. however I think in the future we will have a lot less spanish pro riders so less quantity also less quality in the long run
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
none of them are really big talents other than perhaps mikel landa. he is only guy that can make it from that list. maybe simon... but I have doubts. others shouldn't even be mentioned. I remenber some years ago the huge intxausti hype and he had big talent. more than any other spanish rider but he so far has been very disapointing and name me a big young spanish talent that broke through in recent years? I can't remember one


Anton? .
 
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Landa and Herrada I think will be future stars. I do think Jordi Simon has a chance and should do well with Andalucia Caja Granada.

Carlos Verona and Mario Gonzalez Salas look like being the two biggest prospects but both are still only 19.

Lucena hasnt disappeared and is on the Andalucia Caja Granada Under 23 squad. They also have Joaquin Torres Parraga in their junior squad who was the top spanish finisher in the world championships junior road race.

I do think the development of riders in spain is slowing down and that has a lot to do with the lack of Spanish Squads and also the amount of Spanish riders who end up droping back into the elite ranks. These riders then tend to dominate and the youngsters get left behind.
 
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the reason spanish talents are going so bad now is because cycling especially in youth has become more and more global, except spain and italy, where riders only ride against each other in junior and elite and rarely abroad and when they do they usually get their asses kicked. this will mean of course a slower growth as a pro but with barely any results good luck getting pro.
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
he is 28. I mean a young talent in recent 3 years or so. Anton already was top in 2006 or 2007

I suppose Nieve might be the best candidate for this with his brekthrough last season but he was already 26, so does not really count as a young rider.

Of the young riders besides Landa and Herrada, Madrazo, Castroviejo, Valls, Lobato, Ambroa and M. Garcia has had minor breaktroughs but indeed not really spectacular. The closest to a starquality-breakthrough must have been Valls early last season until he got his kneeinjury in Langkawi and Landa in Burgos.
 
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none of those are breakthroughs. what of those riders did a top ten in a gt for instance? this used to be very common for younger spanish riders. the sevilla's, mancebo's, aitors, casero's etc. I know was a different time and spanish cycling was very doped but now is getting better but not the results, while other countrys do have the talent and results with sudden young talents doing top tens or even top 5s like mollema or velits
 
MADRAZO said:
I suppose Nieve might be the best candidate for this with his brekthrough last season but he was already 26, so does not really count as a young rider. .
27 actually, although he has quite remarkably managed to place himself in the top 11 (11th, 11th and 10th respectively) in his first 3 GTs. Makes one wonder what on earth he was doing before he started winning queen stages of GTs and consistently ride well in the GC.
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
none of those are breakthroughs. what of those riders did a top ten in a gt for instance? this used to be very common for younger spanish riders. the sevilla's, mancebo's, aitors, casero's etc. I know was a different time and spanish cycling was very doped but now is getting better but not the results, while other countrys do have the talent and results with sudden young talents doing top tens or even top 5s like mollema or velits

I said minor (makes a big difference) and basically agrees with you.

It does not look to good for the future of the spanish dominance. Of course they will still be a force but a new Contador, Valverde or even Sammy or Purito seems far away. Still Contador, Anton, Rojas, Cobo, Nieve, Ventoso, Moreno, Lulu, Pardilla, Intxausti and more will still be there for several years along the mentioned younger talents, so it wont be that bad. And one or two of the younger talents might surprice us. For instance Ambroa (a rider I had not taken to much not of as a amateur) this season took a huge step up and if he continues that way he could be a force and with the sheer quantity of possible candidates for breakthroughs I suppose at least a few will have some big succes. But in 10 years it will look bad unless the amateur-scene gets better again.