GB Track Team

[the big ring]

PK and Boardman have no skeletons in the closet, no matter how many times you infer otherwise.
With regards to PK leaving British cycling, its because he transitioned to the performance director of UK Sport quite a while ago. He is effectively one of the most influential people in UK sport.

You need to get more reliable sources.

I read Darryl's post as:
PK + CB kept to themselves as noone else was trustworthy.
If CB is openly anti-doping he hasn't been allowed to be involved but recognises weird performances from magical, "peaking perfectly in every athlete in a team" enough to know to get the hell away.

 

[Darryl Webster]

With all those kids and being a scouser I was wondering whether he or the wife is a papist? I understand LA's is and she was dumped. I guess it's not easy going to Mass with her when you are doped to the eyeballs (H/T to the Enlish novelist Graham Greene for that insight). Any thoughts on the link below Daryl?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/diets/article-1227777/CHRIS-BOARDMAN-I-cycling-32-I-bones-old-woman.html

CB strikes me as a mystery in all of this. Perhaps he's mystified as well. These are confusing times.

Seems a perfectly legitimate explanation of his brittle bone condition as a hereditary condition.

 

[mb2612]

I stand corrected, although it's a little misleading.

No problem, no one has ever accused the UCI of being transparent.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Sprint qualifying is timed over the final 200m, not 250m.

Ridden track much?

I'll own up to having a brain fart over those times.
It is a bit mind boggling.
Not too familiar with men's omnium.
I do know a little about the flying 200m, so I should have followed what mb2612 was saying.

I might not be able to beat you, but I bet my 20YO niece could..........

No problem, no one has ever accused the UCI of being transparent.

Ta.
As I said above I couldn't put into context what you were saying, since it's so far out there.
You had the word for it.

 

[buckle]

Really?..Is that on uk TV?...I have not seen him once and I've watched most all of the cycling coverage.

He commented on the disastrous coverage of the road racing and then the TT. My own favourite moment was when Cancellara came in 7th for TT. Poor CB was stunned into silence although Hugh Porter referred to FC as "that popular Swiss rider" without explaining why he is so popular of course.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Hugh Porter referred to FC as "that popular Swiss rider" without explaining why he is so popular of course.

Or when Jani Brajkovic set best time at the I think first intermediate point: 'Now that's a surpise!'. The guy must have thougt 'hell, a Slovenian rider? he must be crap'.

BBC and road cycling, lol.

Track coverage is way better but I prefer other channels, don't like chauvinism in the commentary box.

 

[Darryl Webster]

He commented on the disastrous coverage of the road racing and then the TT. My own favourite moment was when Cancellara came in 7th for TT. Poor CB was stunned into silence although Hugh Porter referred to FC as "that popular Swiss rider" without explaining why he is so popular of course.

There has been a lot of criticism of the road events coverage. I think its because the feed has come from these and there not really very skilled in covering road cycling : http://www.obs.es/obslondon2012.html

Hugh,s commentary has been diabolical , I accept a little home nation bias but he takes it to utterly unacceptable levels. Chris generally gives some pretty good and fair analysis.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I heard Porter was a cyclist as well, how can he be that bad informed?

 

[Ferminal]

Considering he is a world class pursuiter with an outstanding sprint, why is he so poor on the road. Certainly he is a million miles from getting a place with Sky.

He's not an IP'er though, he's probably more 1-2km. The Australians on the other hand have three genuine 4km'ers. Graeme Brown was part of the 2004 WR but is a long way from being a Thomas/Bobridge/Hepburn. I guess it shows the best 4 IP =/= the best TP.

 

[Darryl Webster]

I heard Porter was a cyclist as well, how can he be that bad informed?

Four times World Pro Pursuit Champion : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Porter

 

[Avoriaz]

I'm not disputing what your saying Avoriaz but I'm curious because like I said I haven't seen him on TV in conjunction with the cycling coverage.
Was he speaking more generally regards sports rather than cycling?.

A bit of both. The main point of reference was the cycling, along the lines of "and, of course, Peter, the renaissance all began with what you did."

His reply was to big up the National Lottery funding process.

I will agree, however, that it was the first I have seen him for a while, though he did win some Queen's medal or other in June for his contributions to UK sport.

 

[DirtyWorks]

So whilst I'm happy that Team GB could be doped, what you describe there isn't "evidence" at all.

Fair enough. Thanks for thanks for the explanation.

 

[the big ring]

I'll own up to having a brain fart over those times.
It is a bit mind boggling.
Not too familiar with men's omnium.
I do know a little about the flying 200m, so I should have followed what mb2612 was saying.

I might not be able to beat you, but I bet my 20YO niece could..........

Men's omnium just changed recently (flying 200m to flying lap), and it's a farce the way it's all changing and rolling all these events into one hodge podge.

Your niece could probably beat me, I can't go sub 12 for 200m

Holy crap. No wonder they stopped the IP - it allows you to go on and win GTs with impunity. B4stards.

 

[thehog]

I'll own up to having a brain fart over those times.
It is a bit mind boggling.
Not too familiar with men's omnium.
I do know a little about the flying 200m, so I should have followed what mb2612 was saying.

I might not be able to beat you, but I bet my 20YO niece could..........



Ta.
As I said above I couldn't put into context what you were saying, since it's so far out there.
You had the word for it.

To see the truth one must take off their rose colored glasses.

You are funny.

 

[Benotti69]

Four times World Pro Pursuit Champion : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Porter

How come he never won the TdF then?

 

[JibberJim]

He's not an IP'er though, he's probably more 1-2km. The Australians on the other hand have three genuine 4km'ers. Graeme Brown was part of the 2004 WR but is a long way from being a Thomas/Bobridge/Hepburn. I guess it shows the best 4 IP =/= the best TP.

I think Clancy has shown that having the TP started with a world class Kilo rider who can do 750m+ plus who can then get back on and recover enough to do one more turn is better than 4 IP riders.

 

[Mellow Velo]

To see the truth one must take off their rose colored glasses.

You are funny.

Slow day on the Armstrong front?

 

[barn yard]

GB women's TP team crush their own WR with a 3.14.682

phil ligett 'the british TP riders are not human! i dont believe it! every time they ride either men or women they set a world record!'

 

[Marco Pantani]

phil ligett 'the british TP riders are not human! i dont believe it! every time they ride either men or women they set a world record!'

what happened to phil???

 

[Mellow Velo]

GB women's TP team crush their own WR with a 3.14.682

phil ligett 'the british TP riders are not human! i dont believe it! every time they ride either men or women they set a world record!'

Great race between USA and Australia, too.
Oz over a second up on GB's then current WR, parked up in the final km and the USA took it by a hair.
3 seconds taken off their NR.

Canada also took a second and a half off their best.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Chris Boardman and his Testosterone Problem

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/d...-BOARDMAN-I-cycling-32-I-bones-old-woman.html

From the Daily Mail article:-

'In 1998, Chris was told he was suffering from low bone density thanks to reduced levels of testosterone in his system coupled with a family history of osteoporosis.
'At first I just felt relief,' says Chris. 'I had been frustrated and puzzled for so long, but when testosterone deficiency was diagnosed it all made sense.
'Anyone with low levels of the hormone will struggle to keep up their stamina - as, among other things, testosterone improves endurance. I was pleased to understand what had been going wrong.
'I would always start races well, but after a few days my energy would be totally spent. Doctors told me my cycling did me no favours because excessive exercise can further drain testosterone levels....
persistently low level of testosterone.'
Although low levels of testosterone were noted..' Chris was recommended HRT. Testosterone supplements were banned in cycling and classed as a performance-enhancing drug,' he says. 'So I applied to the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) in early 1998 to be allowed the therapy on medical grounds, supplying scans to support my case. They said they thought it would be fine, but then Festina happened.' ...During the final two years of his career he received treatment intravenously
Chris then focused on winning another Olympic medal but, with his testosterone deficiency not being addressed
''I've never had any other symptoms - I don't break bones easily or notice any effects of low testosterone,' he says.

This article actually deserves its own Thread.

How many times can Boardman get the word Testosterone into the article ??????

He even mentions 'intravenously'.................wow.. talk about opening the skeleton cupboard when you think something big could all come out in the future.

 

[2008885]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/d...-BOARDMAN-I-cycling-32-I-bones-old-woman.html

He even mentions 'intravenously'.................wow.. talk about opening the skeleton cupboard when you think something big could all come out in the future.

Er, which word do you think he should have used??

 

[the big ring]

Er, which word do you think he should have used??

Olive oily?

 

[andy1234]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/d...-BOARDMAN-I-cycling-32-I-bones-old-woman.html

From the Daily Mail article:-

'In 1998, Chris was told he was suffering from low bone density thanks to reduced levels of testosterone in his system coupled with a family history of osteoporosis.
'At first I just felt relief,' says Chris. 'I had been frustrated and puzzled for so long, but when testosterone deficiency was diagnosed it all made sense.
'Anyone with low levels of the hormone will struggle to keep up their stamina - as, among other things, testosterone improves endurance. I was pleased to understand what had been going wrong.
'I would always start races well, but after a few days my energy would be totally spent. Doctors told me my cycling did me no favours because excessive exercise can further drain testosterone levels....
persistently low level of testosterone.'
Although low levels of testosterone were noted..' Chris was recommended HRT. Testosterone supplements were banned in cycling and classed as a performance-enhancing drug,' he says. 'So I applied to the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) in early 1998 to be allowed the therapy on medical grounds, supplying scans to support my case. They said they thought it would be fine, but then Festina happened.' ...During the final two years of his career he received treatment intravenously
Chris then focused on winning another Olympic medal but, with his testosterone deficiency not being addressed
''I've never had any other symptoms - I don't break bones easily or notice any effects of low testosterone,' he says.

This article actually deserves its own Thread.

How many times can Boardman get the word Testosterone into the article ??????

He even mentions 'intravenously'.................wow.. talk about opening the skeleton cupboard when you think something big could all come out in the future.

All of this info was well known over 10 years ago

Good scoop.

 

[Cycle Chic]

so why feel the need to 'RE-tell all' at this particular point in 'suspicious GB Cycling' time ?