GC Power Ranking

[Ilmaestro99]

1. Vignegard
2 Tadej pogacar
3. Remco
4. Primo Roglic
5. Adam Yates
6. Almida
7. Jay hindley
8. Simon Yates
9. Landa
10. Enrick mas
11. Tiberi
11. Carapax
12. Martinez
13. Gaudu
So many random spainish guys to list now

14. Juan ajuso
15. Daniel Felipe martines
16. C Rodieigues
17. Ben o connor
18. BERNAL

19. G Thomas (lol)
20. If there's decents then Caruso
21. Alexandre vlasov
22. Ciccone

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I would actually put Evenepoel ahead of Roglic, before the latter crashed out of the Tour the former was the stronger on San Luca, Galibier, the gravel sectors and in the TT, with the two of them equal only in Le Lioran.

As always, GT-only ranking:

5) Almeida (this one is pretty clear, IMO)
6) Mas (him, DFM and Ayuso are definitely the hardest to rank for me)
7) Landa
8) DFM
9) Ayuso
10) Carapaz
11) O'Connor (a power ranking is a predictive ranking of who would do best if everyone started an average-route GT in usual form right now, not a ranking of best performances this year - if anything 11th feels a bit high)
12) Thomas
13) Rodriguez
14) A Yates
15) Tiberi
16) Jorgenson
17) Hindley
18) S Yates
19) TGH
20) Gaudu

Putting hindley in 17 this is some good trolling. If you were in a comma from November 2020 onwards and only woke up for 3 wweeks in may 2022, you would rank him above pogacar

 

[CyclistAbi]

GT GC:

1. Roglič (5 GT)
2. Pogačar (3 GT)
3. Vingegaard (2 GT)
4. Evenepoel (1 GT)

People saying things like i will put Evenepoel above Roglič and both at the end of the list, well, lets just burst that bubble, shall we.

P.S. For week long stage racing i feel it's somewhat the same.

 

[SHAD0W93]

GT GC:

1. Froome (7 GT) with a double
2. Roglič (5 GT)
3. Pogačar (4 GT) with a double
4. Vingegaard/Bernal (2 GT)
6. Evenepoel/TGH/Thomas/Carapaz/Simon/Kuss/Hindley(1 GT)

People saying things like i will put Evenepoel above Roglič and both at the end of the list, well, lets just burst that bubble, shall we.

P.S. For week long stage racing i feel it's somewhat the same.

Maybe next year you can give us a power ranking instead of a GT winners list.

 

[bNator]

Maybe next year you can give us a power ranking instead of a GT winners list.

I have a sneaking suspicion it would be somewhat the same😁

 

[SHAD0W93]

I have a sneaking suspicion it would be somewhat the same😁

Only way it’ll change is if Pogacar wins another 2 and Roglic 0 next year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

"We knew that Primož was going to act today because he likes stages with only one climb," Mas said, but no amount of forewarning could really prepare the other podium contenders for the astonishing violence of Red Bull's collective effort on the climb itself.

"Very few people in the peloton or in the world can do that kind of effort. Jonas [Vingegaard] and Tadej [Pogačar] are at the same level, but the rest of us have to manage ourselves a bit more."

'Very few people in the world can do that' – Enric Mas resigned to Primož Roglič's superiority at Vuelta a España

Spaniard admits second place is summit of ambition as Slovenian seizes red at Alto de Moncalvillo

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Krzysztof_O]

GT GC:

1. Roglič (5 GT)
2. Pogačar (3 GT)
3. Vingegaard (2 GT)
4. Evenepoel (1 GT)

People saying things like i will put Evenepoel above Roglič and both at the end of the list, well, lets just burst that bubble, shall we.

P.S. For week long stage racing i feel it's somewhat the same.

Pogacar has 4 GTs (including 3 TdF), not 3. You are not in top form today!

 

[Blanco]

1.Pogacar
2.Vingegaard
3.Roglic
4.Evenepoel
5.Everybody else

 

[SHAD0W93]

'Very few people in the world can do that' – Enric Mas resigned to Primož Roglič's superiority at Vuelta a España

Spaniard admits second place is summit of ambition as Slovenian seizes red at Alto de Moncalvillo

www.cyclingnews.com

How would Mas know? He was an hour behind them.

 

[tobydawq]

O'Connor doesn’t make the top-15, maybe not even top-20.

I definitely don't agree with that.

 

[tobydawq]

GT GC:

1. Roglič (5 GT)
2. Pogačar (3 GT)
3. Vingegaard (2 GT)
4. Evenepoel (1 GT)

People saying things like i will put Evenepoel above Roglič and both at the end of the list, well, lets just burst that bubble, shall we.

P.S. For week long stage racing i feel it's somewhat the same.

Which of Pog's Grand Tours doesn't count and why?

And how have you still not understood what this thread is about?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

1. Pogacar
2. Vingegaard

3. Roglic
4. Evenepoel


The rest, harder to rank.

 

[bNator]

Pogacar has 4 GTs (including 3 TdF), not 3. You are not in top form today!

That's only because you count 2020 TdF as a Pog victory Where Abi made mistake was Roglic at 5 instead of 6... Which conveniently brings me to the next topic:

Only way it’ll change is if Pogacar wins another 2 and Roglic 0 next year.

Since Abi has 6-3 scoring, it will take a bit more than that.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Across all the times that this thread has popped up down the years, Abi has been fed enough to reach morbid obesity...

 

[CyclistAbi]

Pogacar has 4 GTs (including 3 TdF), not 3. You are not in top form today!

Fair point.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Across all the times that this thread has popped up down the years, Abi has been fed enough to reach morbid obesity...

Actually, no. Last couple of years BMI is under control. Especially in the winter season it's important to keep normal BMI. Rogla being role model and hence it's a tad easier. I do agree, though, that in western countries this is getting out of control. As a consumer in western type of society one has to go to great lengths, not to gain excessive weight. On top of that if you have normal BMI a lot of such people don't eat healthy.

 

[CyclistAbi]

And how have you still not understood what this thread is about?

It's a bubble and the same mentality on the loose in it as it was in the Rogličes thread. On how he just wheel sucks, doesn't attack ... All that now put to rest. The same *** here, on how Roglič supposedly is a level bellow some other riders. No way.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Putting Evenepoel ahead of Roglic seems to require putting am extreme amount of emphasis on 1 week of racing in the past 2 years.

Quite the opposite. Roglic has been the better in two of the three one-week races they've raced against each other in this period (Catalunya 2023, Paris-Nice 2024, Dauphiné 2024), but was the worse in this year's Tour prior to crashing out. In a one-week ranking, rather than a GT ranking, I would actually have Roglic comfortably ahead of Evenepoel.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Mas raced against them all this year and he explained nicely on how things currently stand.

 

[tobydawq]

It's a bubble and the same mentality on the loose in it as it was in the Rogličes thread. On how he just wheel sucks, doesn't attack ... All that now put to rest. The same *** here, on how Roglič supposedly is a level bellow some other riders. No way.

Of course he is a level below Pogacar and Vingegaard.

 

[tobydawq]

Mas raced against them all this year and he explained nicely on how things currently stand.

No

 

[CyclistAbi]

Of course he is a level below Pogacar and Vingegaard.

In your mind maybe.

 

[Berniece]

Putting Evenepoel ahead of Roglic seems to require putting am extreme amount of emphasis on 1 week of racing in the past 2 years. Also completely ignores Roglic' track record in doing 2 GTs a year and being podium level whether he be sick, injured or hungover.

It's about the current state, right? Not about their whole career. There is no indication whatsoever that Roglic would've finished ahead of Evenepoel in the TDF. In my opinion they are both at the same level, one sometimes better than the other, but I'm not sure if that will be the case next year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

One time Rogla struggled a bit was when Jonas decided to close the gap to Pogi. Here Rogla has some work left to do for further GT editions, said that Jonas paid for that effort after. Rogla, among others, should be able to capitalize on it deeper into the race. He just didn't get the chance this year. I am sure that plenty of opportunity more to come.