General Doping Thread.

[Ney the Viking]

Zivile Balciunaite from Lithuania who won the European championchip in marathon has gotten a 2 year suspenion and will miss the Olympics. The suspension was from the local authorities, and she as tested positive for too much Testosterone.

 

[hrotha]

Interesting article about the prevalence of blood doping in athletics

According to the research of the Lausanne lab, based on blood samples collected since 2001, up to 14% of all samples would be flagged as positive by cycling's biological passport system. Most samples belonged to long-distance runners.

Even more interesting is that the percentage of suspicious profiles varies wildly from one country to another. Up to 48% of samples from one country would be flagged as positive, while others go up to 39% or 23%. The article suggests the dirtiest countries are Russia, Morocco, France and Spain.

 

[Ney the Viking]

Interesting article about the prevalence of blood doping in athletics

According to the research of the Lausanne lab, based on blood samples collected since 2001, up to 14% of all samples would be flagged as positive by cycling's biological passport system. Most samples belonged to long-distance runners.

Even more interesting is that the percentage of suspicious profiles varies wildly from one country to another. Up to 48% of samples from one country would be flagged as positive, while others go up to 39% or 23%. The article suggests the dirtiest countries are Russia, Morocco, France and Spain.

The cynic inside me is having a field day

 

[theswordsman]

Italian doping investigation just concluded, with 32 indictments requested. Ballan, Cunego...

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=37681&tp=n

 

[sniper]

new type of anabolics

this guy from the Cologne lab says a new type of anabolics is circulating in the peloton.

http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/04072011/73/tour-de-france-doping-experte-warnt-profis.html

those who don't read german, please use google translate.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

this guy from the Cologne lab says a new type of anabolics is circulating in the peloton.

http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/04072011/73/tour-de-france-doping-experte-warnt-profis.html

those who don't read german, please use google translate.

I think this might be SARMs. They have been rumoured to be responsible for the "golden" era of sprinting we're currently experiencing.

 

[zastomito]

Maybe the way they are cutting costs of testing is testing a batch of 20 samples together or more, just like apples (I know they do this when you donate blood). If the batch is clean than that's it but if it comes up with something then they do individual tests.

 

[Scansorial]

Here's a long but good interview with Kimmage: http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/31183/Podcast:-Anthony-Tan-speaks-to-Paul-Kimmage

It's not just 30 minutes of Contador. He talks about pretty much everything.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Interesting article about the prevalence of blood doping in athletics

According to the research of the Lausanne lab, based on blood samples collected since 2001, up to 14% of all samples would be flagged as positive by cycling's biological passport system. Most samples belonged to long-distance runners.

Even more interesting is that the percentage of suspicious profiles varies wildly from one country to another. Up to 48% of samples from one country would be flagged as positive, while others go up to 39% or 23%. The article suggests the dirtiest countries are Russia, Morocco, France and Spain.

The study:
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/57/5/762

A nice little table:
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content-nw/full/57/5/762/T2

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

I think this might be SARMs. They have been rumoured to be responsible for the "golden" era of sprinting we're currently experiencing.

Interesting stuff. Can you give some more info on the rumours about SARM and the sprinter teams because this is something I've suspected but this is the first I've heard about it.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Interesting stuff. Can you give some more info on the rumours about SARM and the sprinter teams because this is something I've suspected but this is the first I've heard about it.

There were apparently rumours about SARMs in Berlin -09. I don't remember the media source, but the info stayed with me. I think it was a specific SARM, Ostarine, that was mentioned.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

There were apparently rumours about SARMs in Berlin -09. I don't remember the media source, but the info stayed with me. I think it was a specific SARM, Ostarine, that was mentioned.

Thanks interesting stuff. Wonder if we'll see a round of bustings as we did with CERA.

 

[Franklin]

The study:
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/57/5/762

A nice little table:
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content-nw/full/57/5/762/T2

Not that I doubt the conclusion, but where do they rank the countries?

 

[sniper]

Interesting Kimmage interview. Unfortunately in German.

http://www.sportschau.de/sp/tour2011/aktuell/kw28/interview_kimmage_20110714.jsp

Calls Vaughters a hypocrit for claiming clean cycling while not standing up against guys like Rihs, Lelangue and Ochowitz.

Says he trusts Christian Vandevelde and a couple of others to be clean.

 

[Bala Verde]

for what it's worth, from the inside, a summary of talks on the radio:

Michel Wuyts (Belgian commentator) said that he spoke with a team doctor in the TdF, who wanted to remain anonymous, and said that he (the doctor) was convinced up till last year there were blood transfusion. He isn't so sure this year.

Wuyts however, he affirms what many seem to believe, says that the top contenders are still preparing for the races with the help of their doctors, seeking the edge inside the current limits.

Big gaps are most likely from the past; it will be a game of seconds, not minutes anymore.

Calculated riding is a consequence of this, because 'they start with x amount of fuel' and they know when they are running on empty. So they can't push themselves beyond a certain point if they want to survive and remain competitive till the end.

 

[craig1985]

Unai Etxebarria wins damages for erroneous Puerto link | Cyclingnews.com

 

[Ney the Viking]

In denmark about 1 million empty containers like the ones typically used for steroids has been cought on the way into the country, and the danish police are now trying to locate the destination as it is believed to be a steroid lab.

Source: http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/article1728478.ece

 

[neineinei]

Canadian William Goodfellow (Silber Pro Cycling Team) has been given a two-year ban after testing positive for clenbuterol and darbepoetin.

http://pedalmag.com/quebec-cyclist-william-goodfellow-tests-positive-receives-2-year-ban/

darbepoetin...

 

[Granville57]

Canadian William Goodfellow (Silber Pro Cycling Team) has been given a two-year ban after testing positive for clenbuterol and darbepoetin.

http://pedalmag.com/quebec-cyclist-william-goodfellow-tests-positive-receives-2-year-ban/

darbepoetin...

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=25840&page=9
Scroll down the page for some more fun.

 

[neineinei]

EPO positive for Dario Mantelli (joined Bardiani 1 August) from 20 July.

http://www.coni.it/it/news/primo-piano/8696-positivo-dario-mantielli-ciclismo.html
http://www.coni.it/it/attivita-isti...nni,-mantelli-e-gregori-fci-squalificati.html

Dario Mantelli - CQ Ranking
Dario Mantelli - Pro Cycling Stats

 

[neineinei]

CONI asks for 4 years and 3 months ban of figure skater Carolina Kostner. for aiding former boyfriend Alex Schwazer in his doping and covering for him.

Seems a bit harsh when Scarponi got 3 months for talking to Ferrari about what would have happened if he had taken one more bag.

http://www.coni.it/it/news/primo-pi...ner,-chiesti-4-anni-3-mesi-di-squalifica.html
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/al...rita+Carolina+Kostner:+rischia+4+anni+di+stop

 

[deValtos]

Have not been following the forums today so sorry if this was already posted, a journalist asking teams how many TUE's they have (used in 2014) ...

Movistar, Tinkoff, Cannonade, CCC, AG2R, Topsport, Bardiani, Bretagne, Caja Rujal, Androni, MTN, Neri Sottoli, Cofidis all gave no response.

Classic response from Astana

 

[Benotti69]

“A three member UCI commission consisting of Pierre Zappelli, Hans Höhener and André Hurter will assess each candidate to determine the most eligible for the 18 Pro Tour team spots.”


Zappelli, Höhener and Hürter are in the Licence Commission since 2004 (=Hein Verbruggen era) until 14 June 2016.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/jun04/jun12news

Plus cá change

 

[neineinei]

Have not been following the forums today so sorry if this was already posted, a journalist asking teams how many TUE's they have (used in 2014) ...

Movistar, Tinkoff, Cannonade, CCC, AG2R, Topsport, Bardiani, Bretagne, Caja Rujal, Androni, MTN, Neri Sottoli, Cofidis all gave no response.

Classic response from Astana

Good one. Europcar not so much better. "We haven't got anything to say to you about that." Maybe MPCC should update them on how to handle such questions.

 

[Parker]

Good one. Europcar not so much better. "We haven't got anything to say to you about that." Maybe MPCC should update them on how to handle such questions.

Lampre are probably the worst of the lot - 'there are better things to talk about, sprinters, climbers, blah, blah, blah" - if you don't want to answer, keep it simple.

BMC probably did the best 'not telling you' answer.