General Doping Thread.

[burning]

I wonder what is the other TUE for Sky, maybe it is much better than horse steroids.

 

[del1962]

Anyone got translations of the responses?

 

[jens_attacks]

katusha trolololo love it!

 

[neineinei]

29 doping cases in Sweden in 2014 (not counting Bäckström):

http://www.expressen.se/sport/har-ar-svenskarna-som-dopat-sig-2014/ (Swedish)
http://www.idrottenskungorelser.se/Bestraffningarantidoping/ (Swedish)

19 doping cases in Norway in 2014 (5 of them tested positive in 2013, one was an appeal after a positive in 2012 (MTB'er Nina Gässler) and three cases from cycling are also probably older)

http://www.antidoping.no/dopingkontroll/dopingkontroll/dommer-oversikt/ (Norw)
Candidates for the cycling bans, not named amateurs:
http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/11/27/nyheter/innenriks/doping/tollvesenet/24548925/ (Norw)
http://www.nrk.no/trondelag/epo-smugler-lei-av-a-bli-frakjort-1.11247508 (Norw)
http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/03/19/sport/sykkel/ishockey/doping/antidoping_norge/32387741/?www=1 (Norw)

 

[neineinei]

https://twitter.com/its_cleanuptime

somebody on twitter

 

[sniper]

Team Zalf doing a Mapei

http://bicibg.it/01news/dettaglio.asp?i ... &idN=20604

 

[neineinei]

While investigating doping among amateur cyclists, bodybuilders etc, Italian police found a blood centrifuge, as well as steroids and EPO. Some of it was seized from the van of a small local transport firm,

DOPING HIDDEN BETWEEN MOZZARELLE - The investigation ended with the interception of the courier from Caserta saliva periodically to supply not only Sassuolo, Maranello and Formigine, but also the market of the province of Modena. In the circumstances have been found - hidden in the van used by the man who really should have carried only mozzarella and other typical local products - a large quantity of drugs and anabolic base of erythropoietin, EPO.

https://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/noti...arelle-9-denunce-131626280--spt.html#it-tw-po

 

[blackcat]

Team Zalf doing a Mapei

http://bicibg.it/01news/dettaglio.asp?i ... &idN=20604

they have a nice kit.

i might get the kit.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Don't do it, blackcat. There's only one glorious emerald green dope frenzy kit.

And it's one of the all time greatest.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Oh goodie. More foxes guarding the hen house...

But public health experts contend that the F.D.A.’s reluctance to act in this case is symptomatic of a broader problem. The agency is not effectively policing the $33 billion-a-year supplements industry in part because top agency regulators themselves come from the industry and have conflicts of interest, they say. In recent years, two of the agency’s top officials overseeing supplements — including one currently on the job — were former leaders of the largest supplement industry trade and lobbying group.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/0 ... -by-f-d-a/

Good ol' FDA.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Canada at least heading in the right direction:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/news-sh ... pais-vasco

It was also based on the findings of the 2014 National Consultation on Doping in Canada, a report that found no culture of doping in cycling in the country.

Apparently nobody read the report because they did find doping "culture" including a former federation official selling PEDs.

They did not find US Postal/Festina, but c'mon... NO culture of doping?

 

[Dr.Guess]

Ok. I've been looking a lot for the Swedish medical company who allegedly tested EPO on the Swedish skiing national team in 1989 (the same company who offered it to the Danish cycling team). Have any of you got an idea which one it was? My main purpose is to look into the matter of Swedish skiers Gunde Swan and Torgny Mogren.
Perhaps I should give Christer Majbäck a call.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re:

Don't do it, blackcat. There's only one glorious emerald green dope frenzy kit.

Or even

 

[skippythepinhead]

I have a question that doesn't truly deserve its own thread, but does require more historical knowledge base than I have. Recently on my trip to France I found myself reading L'Equipe among other pubs to help me refresh my French (stupid sports idioms are so fun and universal!), and there was an article that basically talked about how FDJ has done nothing in 2015. Is it your clinical opinion that this "lovable loser" status is come by honestly, or are FDJ just bad at doping AND bicycle racings? I want to like FDJ either way--despite their hideous white bibs--but would appreciate any input on their personnel and impressions of where they stand in the doping arms race--thanks, and if I missed the apropos thread, please mods, move at will!!

 

[sniper]

Re:

I have a question that doesn't truly deserve its own thread, but does require more historical knowledge base than I have. Recently on my trip to France I found myself reading L'Equipe among other pubs to help me refresh my French (stupid sports idioms are so fun and universal!), and there was an article that basically talked about how FDJ has done nothing in 2015. Is it your clinical opinion that this "lovable loser" status is come by honestly, or are FDJ just bad at doping AND bicycle racings? I want to like FDJ either way--despite their hideous white bibs--but would appreciate any input on their personnel and impressions of where they stand in the doping arms race--thanks, and if I missed the apropos thread, please mods, move at will!!

I'd start with http://www.dopeology.org
you can search teams and individuals.
while the FDJ doping and scandals listed there relate to pre-2013, suffice it to note that Marc Madiot is still the team manager.
Maybe somebody else can fill us in on who the current FDJ doctors are. I can't find it on their website.

 

[blackcat]

Re:

I have a question that doesn't truly deserve its own thread, but does require more historical knowledge base than I have. Recently on my trip to France I found myself reading L'Equipe among other pubs to help me refresh my French (stupid sports idioms are so fun and universal!), and there was an article that basically talked about how FDJ has done nothing in 2015. Is it your clinical opinion that this "lovable loser" status is come by honestly, or are FDJ just bad at doping AND bicycle racings? I want to like FDJ either way--despite their hideous white bibs--but would appreciate any input on their personnel and impressions of where they stand in the doping arms race--thanks, and if I missed the apropos thread, please mods, move at will!!

they need more talent and more dope and a good doctor

 

[mrhender]

Back in 2010 they (as a team) ranked 3th from the bottom on the Uci suspicion list..
It certainly was a french-friendly list...

Cofidis
BB Telecom
FDJ
AG2R
Garmin
Cervelo
Footon-Servetto
Rabobank
Liquigas
Sky
Milram
Saxo Bank
Euskatel
Katusha
Lampre
Quick Step
Omega-Lotto
HTC-Columbia
BMC
Caisse d'Epargne
Astana
RadioShack

What they are doing today I don't know, but I find it interesting and certainly worth a discussion and some digging (for better or worse)...

A little quote from Madiot in the wake of CIRC report for starters:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/09/uk-cycling-report-madiot-idUKKBN0M529B20150309

“I’m not interested in the report, I’m interested in what is going to be done afterwards. I mean right now. In this report there are many things we already knew. The most important is what is going to be proposed and that is where I expect a lot from the UCI and Cookson.”

Among the CIRC recommendations was that the UCI should make more use of an article in its anti-doping regulations stating that in case of strong suspicion a rider can be tested outside the 6am-11pm window. “I heard that. Why not?,” said Madiot. “Simple things can be done: first off, a rider should not have access to his biological passport.” The biological passport, launched in 2008, is a record for riders, in which profiles of biological markers of doping and results of doping tests are collated over a period of time. It helps the authorities detect abnormal values to a rider’s blood data. “You should not give a rider his passport so he can’t be tempted to re-balance his blood data,” Madiot explained.

The CIRC report showed that riders would abuse corticoids by requesting – and easily getting Therapeutical Use Exemptions (TUE).

Corticoids are an anti-inflammatory drug that are allowed out of competition but forbidden during competitions unless a rider is granted a TUE. “The corticoids? You just have to say ‘stop’, it costs nothing. If a rider is ill and needs corticoids, you just tell him to rest and get treated. You don’t race if you’re sick or injured,” said Madiot. “End the use of corticoids, night-time testing, not giving a rider access to his passport. These are easy measures that cost nothing. “You should also ban those doctors who have been involved in doping scandals and continue to work with teams, and force riders to race instead of disappearing from the team environment for three months,” he added.

I think it is powerful things to say (compared to what other have said), because he knows he can be hold accountable to them when it comes to his own team...

Btw wasn't there something about french teams being on the worse end wrt to TUE's ?
Dont remember where I have that from...

 

[mrhender]

But still Madiot was arrested in 1998 and supposedly admitted to turning the blind eye to doping...

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1309&dat=19981004&id=m1ZIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uRQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4024,3498628&hl=en

One can only hope he had a change of heart since...

He is also on record in 2012 for saying that:

"History will show cycling at two speeds"

http://europeandaily.com/sport/2012/10/03/cycling-ready-clean-its-act

 

[sniper]

good stuff mrhender.
still don't know who the docs are.
although, if i'm not mistaken, Gerard Guillaume (ex-Festina) is one.
This article presents him as one of a very select few cycling docs who refused to dope their riders.
http://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Frue89.nouvelobs.com%2Frue89-sport%2F2013%2F07%2F20%2Ftour-france-medecins-dequipe-refusent-dopage-244219&ei=07A4VZ_8A4GzsQH20oDQBw&usg=AFQjCNG0vkBljB6cOtJHPIK8_dN5D2uAcw&sig2=Tt3iIFdXxwrOdGemhfeYhQ
Prentice Steffen and Edwin Achtenberg are the other two mentioned in the article as clean docs.

 

[skippythepinhead]

Thanks all--great stuff, as always!

 

[neineinei]

http://news80.com/dz/2015/04/23/424089/

Hichem Chaabane (Algerie) suspended after positive.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

After being Mr. anonymous in Amissa Bongo he got 7 wins in March...

 

[del1962]

https://twitter.com/ProCyclingStats/status/592607609544417280

"Rumors two more African cyclists tested positive on doping. Names unknown yet"

 

[Spider1964]

Oscar Sevilla takes 2nd in the Vuelta Mexico on the same day as Davide Rebellin wins summit finish at the Tour of Turkey.

What year is this?

 

[58teeth]

Haha. I had no idea Sevilla was still even in this sport!