General Doping Thread.

[GraftPunk]

Gerolsteiner were dirty dirty for sure. Now I'm feeling compelled to go back and look at them with deeper hindsight.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Najar gave us an evening of genuine hilarity earlier this year and I will remember him fondly, along with the likes of Gabrovski.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Najar gave us an evening of genuine hilarity earlier this year and I will remember him fondly, along with the likes of Gabrovski.

The problem is he mostly dragged the camera along with him
so we missed see the racing back down the field.

 

[carton]

Najar's team basically telling the UCI to eff off. That's gonna fix things for them. :lol:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/illegal-and-unacceptable-sep-team-hit-out-at-uci-over-najar-cera-case/

Whatever you may think about the UCI, the fact that really pretty much the entire cycling world outside a handful of team principals and federation heads can dismiss these clowns is a huge improvement over ten years ago, methinks.

 

[TubularBills]

https://flipboard.com/@espressovc/glo-test-1d560vf3y

 

[GraftPunk]

Not a huge baseball fan, but this seems like an unusually harsh (by that i mean good) penalty for the MLB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776140-robinson-cano-reportedly-suspended-80-games-by-mlb-for-positive-ped-test?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

[Sciatic]

Re:

Not a huge baseball fan, but this seems like an unusually harsh (by that i mean good) penalty for the MLB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776140-robinson-cano-reportedly-suspended-80-games-by-mlb-for-positive-ped-test?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Its still a joke though (that is, American sports and doping): Cano decides to “accept the suspension” a day after getting hit by a pitch that broke his wrist and forcing him to miss roughly 8 weeks of the season to recover. True, he cannot play in the playoffs, but then again, his team (my team, the Seattle Mariners) now have the current longest streak of NOT making the postseason of any team in the big-4 American pro sports!

 

[Robert5091]

Never tested positive!
https://nypost.com/2018/05/15/behind-the-masking-drug-that-got-robinson-cano-banned/

Though he admitted to using Furosemide, Cano adamantly denied taking PEDs in the statement.

“I would never do anything to cheat the rules of the game that I love,” he said, “and after undergoing dozens of drug tests for more than a decade, I have never tested positive for a Performance Enhancing Substance for the simple reason that I have never taken one.”

 

[Robert5091]

https://sputniknews.com/sport/201805151064469955-swedish-athletes-doping-use-exposed/

The Fancy Bears hacker group has published a number of documents obtained from the Swedish Sports Confederation (Riksidrottsförbundet)

Original article in Swedish -
https://www.dn.se/sport/rf-polisanmaler-dataintrang/

Apart from some bickering between people nothing new to read about.

 

[yaco]

Re:

Not a huge baseball fan, but this seems like an unusually harsh (by that i mean good) penalty for the MLB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776140-robinson-cano-reportedly-suspended-80-games-by-mlb-for-positive-ped-test?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

 

[Pazuzu]

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MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

Does MLB have off season PED testing?

 

[pastronef]

https://www.twitter.com/DopeologyDotOrg/status/997057555103920128

According to the UCI's sanction list updated today, Kevyn Ista recorded an ADRV for Furosemide on Stage 4 of February's Etoile de Bessèges and received a reprimand. Furosemide is a diuretic and prohibited at all times under WADA rules. No media reports available on this yet.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

Does MLB have off season PED testing?

My understanding this is the case - You will need to double check.

 

[Merckx index]

Baseball player says drug testing "is not random":

Carlos Gomez, the veteran Tampa Bay Rays outfielder, says he’s already been drug tested between five and seven times this season. Meanwhile, Gomez says he knows at least one player on his team hasn’t been drug tested at all. His conclusion: MLB’s random drug tests aren’t random...

“It’s not random. It’s not random. I can put my hand on fire, it’s not random,” Gomez told Yahoo Sports MLB Podcast host Jeff Passan. “They pick guys. I think it’s something the way you play, the way you act … I’m the oldest guy on the team. I get here earlier than everybody. Why? Because I have to work harder to maintain my body to support the rest of the season. When I do that and they come to you and have a drug test every time, you get furious. You get mad. One month into the season I got like seven drug tests. Something like that. Between five or seven. That’s not right. We have a guy on the team who for sure hasn’t had one drug test.”

Index of suspicion?

Gomez said he feels like two groups of players are targeted for drug tests: Older players and Latin players. Gomez, 32, said he and Rays teammates Sergio Romo (35) and Denard Span (34) have been tested frequently this season.

An MLB spokesman told Yahoo Sports the league’s drug testing is handled by an independent program administrator selected by the league and the players’ union. MLB has no control over who is chosen to be tested, the spokesman said, and the league maintains testing is random.

In one week I had two blood tests. Two in one week. I mean, like, what are you looking for?

https://sports.yahoo.com/carlos-gomez-mlb-drug-testing-isnt-random-targets-older-latin-players-170350540.html

 

[luckyboy]

Re: Re:

Not a huge baseball fan, but this seems like an unusually harsh (by that i mean good) penalty for the MLB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776140-robinson-cano-reportedly-suspended-80-games-by-mlb-for-positive-ped-test?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

In April an NBA player (Jodie Meeks) got banned 25 games for Ipamorelin (GH peptide) and GHRP-2.

He missed the last 4 games of Washington's season, plus their 6 playoff games, so he has 15 left - about a month - at the start of next season (out of 82 games!). That makes a grand total of about 7 weeks out.

It's the longest drug ban in NBA history :lol:

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Not a huge baseball fan, but this seems like an unusually harsh (by that i mean good) penalty for the MLB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776140-robinson-cano-reportedly-suspended-80-games-by-mlb-for-positive-ped-test?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

In April an NBA player (Jodie Meeks) got banned 25 games for Ipamorelin (GH peptide) and GHRP-2.

He missed the last 4 games of Washington's season, plus their 6 playoff games, so he has 15 left - about a month - at the start of next season (out of 82 games!). That makes a grand total of about 7 weeks out.

It's the longest drug ban in NBA history :lol:

My post is referring to NHL - And sensibly American pro sports are not part of the WADA Code.

 

[ngent41]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23592698/welington-castillo-chicago-white-sox-given-80-game-suspension-violating-mlb-drug-policy

baseball player suspended for using EPO

 

[red_flanders]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23592698/welington-castillo-chicago-white-sox-given-80-game-suspension-violating-mlb-drug-policy

baseball player suspended for using EPO

That's a pretty odd drug to take for baseball. Wonder what's behind that.

 

[carton]

My spidey senses are tingling. Yates, Chaves, Aru. No talk of illness. Not accusing all of them, maybe it's just that the effects of the latest altitude camps are wearing off earlier than expected.

 

[TubularBills]

#donewithprocycling

#donewithnfl

Another Landis.

I'll continue to watch the Spring Classics & Strade Bianchi.

The sport is dead.

I am mourning the death of the Grand Tours?

+ Yates? How does it feel to be out-doped?

 

[GraftPunk]

An interesting article for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.velonews.com/2018/05/the-outer-line/the-outer-line-researchers-seek-the-power-to-believe-pro-cyclists_467803

 

[pastronef]

"twitter rumors" (so I take it with a pinch of salt ) of a Colombian testosterone positive in Milano-Torino 2017

4 months silent UCI ban this winter

Milano-Torino Oct 5th
Colombia Oroy Paz Feb 6th

4 months

https://www.twitter.com/cycling_troll/status/1004029569278488576

 

[GuyIncognito]

The test doesn't come back positive until quite a while after the day the sample is taken.
So, for that to be possible, one of these would have to be true:

- Ban is 4 months from the date of the positive being communicated to the rider. Less than 4 months before Oro y Paz so he wouldn't have ridden that. Of the 12 colombians at Milano - Torino 2017 every single one was riding at Oro y Paz or earlier

- Ban is backdated 4 months from Milano - Torino. No riders have been stripped from the results of Lombardia, Guanxi or Turkey so the rider did not ride any of those, which only applies to Ivan Sosa. And it can't be him because the guy making the claim claims it's someone important

Conclusion: Likely not true

 

[pastronef]

Re:

The test doesn't come back positive until quite a while after the day the sample is taken.
So, for that to be possible, one of these would have to be true:

- Ban is 4 months from the date of the positive being communicated to the rider. Less than 4 months before Oro y Paz so he wouldn't have ridden that. Of the 12 colombians at Milano - Torino 2017 every single one was riding at Oro y Paz or earlier

- Ban is backdated 4 months from Milano - Torino. No riders have been stripped from the results of Lombardia, Guanxi or Turkey so the rider did not ride any of those, which only applies to Ivan Sosa. And it can't be him because the guy making the claim claims it's someone important

Conclusion: Likely not true

the results maybe havent been stripped yet because it was a silent ban?
anyway
it´s just twitter speculation/fake news for now

 

[GraftPunk]

Since a magic-pill type of doping was being discussed ... well, everywhere... in the context of sky's trans-formative abilities I'll just leave this here as a possible data point:https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/health/athletes-gene-editing-doping-sport-intl/index.html