General Doping Thread.

[Rob5091]

Not sure where to post this, but as it's doping ... and psychoactive bath salts ?!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12685457/El-Chapo-Cotswolds-5m-drugs-racket.html
A British father accused of running a £5m drugs racket from a picturesque market town in the Cotswolds faces 120 years in an American prison.

Matthew Grimm, a keen member of the cycling club in historic Chipping Sodbury, is fighting extradition to the US over five counts of trafficking and one of money laundering.

But the bullish 49-year-old - alleged to have shipped substances across the Atlantic including psychoactive bath salts - has told prosecutors in Florida to 'bring it on.'

The suspect, who told a court he relies on cycling to 'clear his head' as he fights the case, became the first person targeted by President Biden's Executive Order 14059.

This aims to combat fentanyl and other synthetic drugs which have been blamed for hundreds of death in the States.

Police in the UK and the Netherlands helped the US Treasury to track Grimm and two Dutch nationals in a separate case, allegedly over the sale of illicit drugs purchased online and via dark net marketplaces.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Not sure where to post this, but as it's doping ... and psychoactive bath salts ?!

But it's not really doping, is it? He's just a recreational cyclist who deals in psychoactive drugs.

 

[RedheadDane]

But it's not really doping, is it? He's just a recreational cyclist who deals in psychoactive drugs.

In terms of improving performance, it might be the opposite of doping...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Anyone feel that's those heart problems are linked to some new product that has heart tissue as hidden side effect? You'd think they detect enlarged hearts before people crash their car or end up death on their hotel room.

Enlarged heart muscle is easily picked up on a ECG (although the scare they gave me over that last month proves to be a non-issue)

 

[Unchained]

Enlarged heart muscle is easily picked up on a ECG (although the scare they gave me over that last month proves to be a non-issue)

I have had the opinion for years that bike riding is healthy, fun and can be mentally therapeutic. Bike racing has zero to do with health, and I will guess that later the obsession w ultra low body weight and fat, the consumption of an almost intentionally diabetic diet and in some cases 60-80 race days a year is just unhealthy

 

[Ricco']

I have had the opinion for years that bike riding is healthy, fun and can be mentally therapeutic. Bike racing has zero to do with health, and I will guess that later the obsession w ultra low body weight and fat, the consumption of an almost intentionally diabetic diet and in some cases 60-80 race days a year is just unhealthy

I believe that's the case for every sport, specially the ones who deal more with the cardiovascular system.

Jogging and running is also a great and healthy activity to do, completely opposite to long term competitive track and field activity.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Jogging and running is also a great and healthy activity to do, completely opposite to long term competitive track and field activity.

How old was Jim Fixx when he carked it?

 

[samhocking]

I believe that's the case for every sport, specially the ones who deal more with the cardiovascular system.

Jogging and running is also a great and healthy activity to do, completely opposite to long term competitive track and field activity.

My hunch is cycling allows a particularly unnatural amount and time period of ultra-high intensity (even more with power meters) because it's done sitting down and an almost zero impact sport. Running is very harsh on the non-cardiovascular system because of the impact, it simply doesn't allow full-intensity after a period because the pain and impact on the joints and muscles force a reduction in aerobic load because they simply do not work efficiently anymore. It comes down to cycling allowing the body to be 5x more efficient than running I'm sure. Humans are just not designed to ride bikes, but in some ways it feels more natural than running ever does.

 

[pelotonIQ]

I have had the opinion for years that bike riding is healthy, fun and can be mentally therapeutic. Bike racing has zero to do with health, and I will guess that later the obsession w ultra low body weight and fat, the consumption of an almost intentionally diabetic diet and in some cases 60-80 race days a year is just unhealthy

By the end of their careers some riders look 10 years older than their real age would suggest.

 

[Rob5091]

By the end of their careers some riders look 10 years older than their real age would suggest.

Reading this about the amount of carbs digested by riders, I have to wonder what it might do to the human body -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...ydrate-revolution-is-speeding-up-pro-cycling/
"From the front to the back of the peloton, riders are now crushing 100-120 grams of carbohydrate per hour. That’s almost twice what they might have managed a decade ago. It’s the carbo-equivalent of a 12 oz can of Coca Cola every 20 minutes, or more than two cups of cooked white rice per hour."

 

[firefly3323]

How old was Jim Fixx when he carked it?

Just because he couldn't out run his past (and present) habits doesn't mean I can't

 

[Unchained]

Reading this about the amount of carbs digested by riders, I have to wonder what it might do to the human body -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...ydrate-revolution-is-speeding-up-pro-cycling/
"From the front to the back of the peloton, riders are now crushing 100-120 grams of carbohydrate per hour. That’s almost twice what they might have managed a decade ago. It’s the carbo-equivalent of a 12 oz can of Coca Cola every 20 minutes, or more than two cups of cooked white rice per hour."

I read this and it's just more confusing stuff for me.. I am regular..2 bottle cages and most of my jerseys are typical 3 pockets. I am looking at my ride times and current on bike nutrition and I am no place close..The Gu Rocktane gels I tolerate are @$2 bucks a pop..$53 bucks for 24 on Amazon. My old stand by is regular Fig Newtons which are easy to get out of the jersey and eat while riding..

 

[fmk_RoI]

By the end of their careers some riders look 10 years older than their real age would suggest.

Jean Robic was 17 when this photo was taken.

Robic wasn't actually 17 when that photo was taken. He was closer to 18.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Just because he couldn't out run his past (and present) habits doesn't mean I can't

Also, while Jim Fixx was considered a running guru way back when (just look at the 70s shoes, sweats, and the track itself back then!), doesn't mean science and the training in the sport of running hasn't come a long way since.

 

[Sciatic]

I couldn't remember the exact nature of Fixx's heart problems, so looked up a few articles. I thought he was one of the folks who died from undiscoverable congenital heart defects. But it turns out he seemed to have died from a combination of stubbornness and stupidity, particularly with his direct family hx (father) of heart failure. Article is paywalled so pulled this excerpt:
"Friends and family reported that Fixx had complained of chest pains while running and tightness in his chest. Yet he refused to have an exercise stress test, despite the urging of his former wife, Alice Cashman Fixx, and the invitation of Kenneth Cooper (Cooper, 1985; "Deadly Refusal,"1984). Apparently, Fixx preferred to heed the advice of another physician friend who told him: 'Annual physicals are a waste of time.' Fixx's autopsy revealed damage to three parts of his heart--evidence that he had suffered milder heart attacks in the weeks leading to his death (Cooper, 1985)."

Source : Darcy Plymire, "Running, heart disease, and the ironic death of Jim Fixx,
Research Quarterly for Exercise in Sport 73, no. 1 (2002): 38-46.

 

[firefly3323]

As Dr Aaron Baggish points out in some of his lectures Fixx was a 2 pack a day smoker, ate a completely garbage diet and had an apparently ugly, stressful divorce.

But yeah, running is bad, killled Jim Fixx.....says the fat sedentary person.

 

[Aimar16]

Another NHL player has been diagnosed with a blood clot. It is quite common in the NHL compared to other sports. Surely not a coincidence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721604802541453817

View: https://twitter.com/canes/status/1721604802541453817

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Another NHL player has been diagnosed with a blood clot. It is quite common in the NHL compared to other sports. Surely not a coincidence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721604802541453817

View: https://twitter.com/canes/status/1721604802541453817

Andersen is a goalie though, so things like the position and so on are potential factors as well. Last one that I remember was Pascal Dupuis a few years ago, and his had been a recurring issue but had followed on from surgery IIRC.

 

[proffate]

Friends and family reported that Fixx had complained of chest pains while running and tightness in his chest. Yet he refused to have an exercise stress test, despite the urging of his former wife, Alice Cashman Fixx, and the invitation of Kenneth Cooper (Cooper, 1985; "Deadly Refusal,"1984). Apparently, Fixx preferred to heed the advice of another physician friend who told him: 'Annual physicals are a waste of time.' Fixx's autopsy revealed damage to three parts of his heart--evidence that he had suffered milder heart attacks in the weeks leading to his death (Cooper, 1985).

Well, maybe they are, but investigating a strange pain in one's chest is not the same thing as an annual physical...

 

[Aimar16]

Andersen is a goalie though, so things like the position and so on are potential factors as well. Last one that I remember was Pascal Dupuis a few years ago, and his had been a recurring issue but had followed on from surgery IIRC.

Top goalie Vasilevskiy has also been diagnosed with a blood clot in the past.

 

[Froome]

He's only 38 in March next year,so he's still got a good few years left. The Vuelta starts in Portugal next year, so hopefully someone signs him up so he can be there!

He has no chance against the new wonder boy here in Portugal called mauricio moreira, a guy with 75 kg that did 6.5 w/kg on senhora da graça in 20 minutes.

Pogacar and vingegaard fear him, that's why they don’t come to Portugal to try to win the biggest race in this (another) world.

 

[Rob5091]

He has no chance against the new wonder boy here in Portugal called mauricio moreira, a guy with 75 kg that did 6.5 w/kg on senhora da graça in 20 minutes.

Pogacar and vingegaard fear him, that's why they don’t come to Portugal to try to win the biggest race in this (another) world.

6.5w/kg? What is he, a junior?!

 

[RedheadDane]

I think the big question, we all need to ask is;
What the heck are the Arab guys commentating UAE Tour on?
Just... very strong Arab coffee?

 

[Mayomaniac]

I think the big question, we all need to ask is;
What the heck are the Arab guys commentating UAE Tour on?
Just... very strong Arab coffee?

Frankly I prefer them to pretty much all English speaking commentators...

 

[RedheadDane]

Frankly I prefer them to pretty much all English speaking commentators...

You definitely can't blame them for not being enthutiastic... I can't spell...