General News Thread

[tomazo]

The first stage is rumored to finish on Madonna di Campiglio.
Don't think that a good idea, cause we will probably know the winner of a race after first stage, so why really bother on coming to Poland

 

[jens_attacks]

it will be very nice
the climb is not brutal at all, only marco's legendary attack made it so great

i think the race still can be overturned back in poland. if they try, of course.

 

[tomazo]

The presentation is scheduled on 7th novermber, so day after tomorrow we will know for sure. Still, i think that two stages in Trentino will settle GC.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The first stage is rumored to finish on Madonna di Campiglio.
Don't think that a good idea, cause we will probably know the winner of a race after first stage, so why really bother on coming to Poland

Depends. They could always have a climb of Przehyba before descending and having about 10km flat to a finish in Nowy Sącz...

Or they could do the Równica climb that Dan Martin won on in 2010 en route to winning the race overall.

Both of these would be totally viable and reasonable places to include that would make the race more than just a one-climb race. They could also have a hilly up-and-down-all-day stage in the style of the queen stage of the Szlakiem Grodów Piastkowskich with Walimska and Woliborska as key climbs.

Less realistically, perhaps, they could do Przełęcz Karkonoska:

Or alternatively, if they wanted to balance the route out in a completely different fashion, they could throw in some tough cobbled roads up in northern Mazowsze, around Olsztyn, Elbłąg and Kętrzyn, and make a real tough stage.

But if you don't want to be that extreme, I've long been an advocate of turning that final 12km loop that they keep using in the final stage into an ITT.

 

[jens_attacks]

sometimes i do wonder if any organizers chose some of the libertine hipsterish's climbs

they look great but somehow will never be ridden in a professional race

 

[tomazo]

Przełęcz Karkonoska is out of question due to many logistic problems. TdP will stay in southern Poland s, which is a shame, they could do some nice hilly stage in the north. Anyway there will be probably some dull stages on rounds, beacuse it pays nicely. And the itt is rumored also, so maybe there will be some GC battle in Poland after all.

 

[RedheadDane]

Beautiful! The riders are even given a choice: Cobbels or gravel!

 

[AntonioRossi]

Joost Posthuma (31) is retiring after not being able to find a new team for next year

http://www.joostposthuma.nl/nieuws/item/292/De+knoop+doorgehakt

 

[jens_attacks]

tomazo you were right, the tour of pologne will be decided in italy

MTF on madonna di campiglio and pordoi from canazei! _O_
basically another giro del trentino in july , personally i like the idea because i love trentino. it will be a showdown i hope

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Depends. They could always have a climb of Przehyba before descending and having about 10km flat to a finish in Nowy Sącz...

Or they could do the Równica climb that Dan Martin won on in 2010 en route to winning the race overall.

Both of these would be totally viable and reasonable places to include that would make the race more than just a one-climb race. They could also have a hilly up-and-down-all-day stage in the style of the queen stage of the Szlakiem Grodów Piastkowskich with Walimska and Woliborska as key climbs.

Less realistically, perhaps, they could do Przełęcz Karkonoska:

Or alternatively, if they wanted to balance the route out in a completely different fashion, they could throw in some tough cobbled roads up in northern Mazowsze, around Olsztyn, Elbłąg and Kętrzyn, and make a real tough stage.

But if you don't want to be that extreme, I've long been an advocate of turning that final 12km loop that they keep using in the final stage into an ITT.

tour of poland will always be done in the south I think because only there it is very popular.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

tomazo you were right, the tour of pologne will be decided in italy

MTF on madonna di campiglio and pordoi from canazei! _O_
basically another giro del trentino in july , personally i like the idea because i love trentino. it will be a showdown i hope

it means whoever wins that race deserves those wt points. good

 

[El Pistolero]

Moser deserved them this year as well lol.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Moser deserved them this year as well lol.

yes and where did I say he didn't?

 

[El Pistolero]

yes and where did I say he didn't?

Then you made a very redundant comment.

 

[Gloin22]

Wiggins involved in a crash with van. He's in stable condition apparently.

''It is believed that he may have broken several ribs and suffered hand and wrist injuries although police have refused to give any details as to whether any wounds could threaten his world-beating cycling career.''

http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local-news/wiggins-hospitalised-after-road-smash-1-5102977

Sounds quite serious.

 

[jens_attacks]

pfff....




.............

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Then you made a very redundant comment.

or you can't read. but go ahead now you can have the last word

 

[Gloin22]

Kittel voicing opinions particularly about Astana

“We need new principles,” Kittel told Het Nieuwsblad. “I don’t get what the ethical position of the International Cycling Union (UCI) was late last week when it decided to give Astana a World Tour license with the Kazakh as team manager. At present there are no definite rules. There is, for example, Jonathan Vaughters, who I think is fighting for a clean sport. On the other hand, he confessed in the USADA report that he too was a doping sinner.

“Solutions must be found, but they are not there yet. As an example there is the manifesto of several major newspapers…I find that a good initiative.”

“I would never go. Never. Money is not everything,” he said. “I need to feel good in a team. I already heard rumours of Astana about what type of team it is. The Kazakhs, even the non-riders, simply have a different mentality.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ence-states-that-hed-never-race-for-team.aspx

 

[jens_attacks]

little whiner, filling nicely in cunego's shoes now that damiano is fading
too bad because i kind of liked him. he's singing the german press song, it wouldn't take long and he will fail

damn i think i caught a cold, gotta put my blood at uv lights now

 

[Altitude]

Kittel voicing opinions particularly about Astana

“We need new principles,” Kittel told Het Nieuwsblad. “I don’t get what the ethical position of the International Cycling Union (UCI) was late last week when it decided to give Astana a World Tour license with the Kazakh as team manager. At present there are no definite rules. There is, for example, Jonathan Vaughters, who I think is fighting for a clean sport. On the other hand, he confessed in the USADA report that he too was a doping sinner.

“Solutions must be found, but they are not there yet. As an example there is the manifesto of several major newspapers…I find that a good initiative.”

“I would never go. Never. Money is not everything,” he said. “I need to feel good in a team. I already heard rumours of Astana about what type of team it is. The Kazakhs, even the non-riders, simply have a different mentality.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ence-states-that-hed-never-race-for-team.aspx

Who the phuck is Kittel to talk, with his blacklight blood doping sh!t.

 

[maltiv]

Who the phuck is Kittel to talk, with his blacklight blood doping sh!t.

You mean the procedure that wasn't even illegal at the time he did it and definitely doesn't enhance performance?

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Everything Kittel said is true.

Astana is a team run by dopers, financed by autocrats and full of shady riders.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

little whiner, filling nicely in cunego's shoes now that damiano is fading
too bad because i kind of liked him. he's singing the german press song, it wouldn't take long and he will fail

damn i think i caught a cold, gotta put my blood at uv lights now

This is breaking news stuff, The awesome Jens-A attacking someone with doping insuantion.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Kittel voicing opinions particularly about Astana

“We need new principles,” Kittel told Het Nieuwsblad. “I don’t get what the ethical position of the International Cycling Union (UCI) was late last week when it decided to give Astana a World Tour license with the Kazakh as team manager. At present there are no definite rules. There is, for example, Jonathan Vaughters, who I think is fighting for a clean sport. On the other hand, he confessed in the USADA report that he too was a doping sinner.

“Solutions must be found, but they are not there yet. As an example there is the manifesto of several major newspapers…I find that a good initiative.”

“I would never go. Never. Money is not everything,” he said. “I need to feel good in a team. I already heard rumours of Astana about what type of team it is. The Kazakhs, even the non-riders, simply have a different mentality.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ence-states-that-hed-never-race-for-team.aspx

Flawed leadership perhaps, but its an initiative.

 

[maltiv]

This is breaking news stuff, The awesome Jens-A attacking someone with doping insuantion.

You really think the UV-light thing is doping? It's just humbug.