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[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Looks like a terror attack was planned on tomorrow's GP Frankfurt.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...eitelt-offenbar-terroranschlag-a-1031477.html - sorry, German only

Unbelievable.

Now the race was officially canceled. What a sad day.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Looks like a terror attack was planned on tomorrow's GP Frankfurt.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...eitelt-offenbar-terroranschlag-a-1031477.html - sorry, German only

Unbelievable.

Now the race was officially canceled. What a sad day.

very sad. But the only right decision.

 

[The Hitch]

huh? A terror attack? Who wanted to attack a cycling race?

 

[RedheadDane]

People who knows that attacking a place where a lot of people are gathered (and even more watching on the tv) is a great way of instilling terror.

 

[Arnout]

Re:

huh? A terror attack? Who wanted to attack a cycling race?

Militant car drivers, obviously.

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

People who knows that attacking a place where a lot of people are gathered (and even more watching on the tv) is a great way of instilling terror.

Well it worked at the Boston marathon and terrorists always want maximum publicity. So much for the innocent days of farmers protesting in the Tour.

 

[willbick]

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

 

[Vino's Mum]

Re:

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

Done the alternative way you suggest, a second bunch of riders who've been gapped could sprint towards the back of the first large and slowing bunch (emphasis on large and slowing) as it comes over the line. With inevitable consequences.

 

[willbick]

Re: Re:

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

Done the alternative way you suggest, a second bunch of riders who've been gapped would sprint towards the back of the first large and slowing bunch (emphasis on large and slowing) as it comes over the line. With inevitable consequences.

???? sorry to be dumb but i dont understand why the rule as it stands stops this from happening, or at least makes it less likely

 

[Vino's Mum]

Sorry, I misread your question. Was about to delete my obviously wrong answer when you quoted it.

 

[Eshnar]

Re:

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

I'm not 100% sure I understand your question... But supposing I did: group 1 gets to the line at 5h51'30'' (timing of the first rider of the group)... after, say, 10'' all the riders of the group have passed, and 2'' later the first rider of group 2 gets to the line, exactly at 5h51'42''... therefore the gap between the two groups is 12". It's a pretty consistent way of representing the gaps. Not sure how you could come up with a different system that would prevent a mess.

 

[nayr497]

Re: Re:

huh? A terror attack? Who wanted to attack a cycling race?

Militant car drivers, obviously.

I thought they all lived in my city...

 

[willbick]

Re: Re:

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

I'm not 100% sure I understand your question... But supposing I did: group 1 gets to the line at 5h51'30'' (timing of the first rider of the group)... after, say, 10'' all the riders of the group have passed, and 2'' later the first rider of group 2 gets to the line, exactly at 5h51'42''... therefore the gap between the two groups is 12". It's a pretty consistent way of representing the gaps. Not sure how you could come up with a different system that would prevent a mess.

yes you understand what i am saying - i just think if 2 groups finish say 1 second apart then the time gap should be 1 second. i dont see why that would result in a mess - it seems perfectly logical to me. it seems unfair that if there is a small split in a finish then the riders behind the split get penalised several seconds in effect.

 

[Eshnar]

Re: Re:

I have a question and there didnt seem to be a suitable thread so I'll have to ask it here.

Regarding the bunch all gets the same time rule, why if 2 bunches finish separated by 1 second is the gap not 1 second? Instead it is the gap between the first rider of bunch 1 and the first rider of bunch 2 but this makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why they do it this way? cheers

I'm not 100% sure I understand your question... But supposing I did: group 1 gets to the line at 5h51'30'' (timing of the first rider of the group)... after, say, 10'' all the riders of the group have passed, and 2'' later the first rider of group 2 gets to the line, exactly at 5h51'42''... therefore the gap between the two groups is 12". It's a pretty consistent way of representing the gaps. Not sure how you could come up with a different system that would prevent a mess.

yes you understand what i am saying - i just think if 2 groups finish say 1 second apart then the time gap should be 1 second. i dont see why that would result in a mess - it seems perfectly logical to me. it seems unfair that if there is a small split in a finish then the riders behind the split get penalised several seconds in effect.

So what would be the time of the second group? Take into account that we usually think in terms of gaps, but the GC is actually computed in overall timing. What if there's a 3rd group coming to the line at 5h51'59''. What's their gap wrt the other two groups? I think it would be indeed a mess.

 

[Michele]

There seems to be some news about Vini Fantini pre-Giro but no clear info yet.

 

[Netserk]

Rujano news?!?!

 

[May0maniac]

Southeast will ride the Giro with a new, white jersey to celebrate the career of AleJet, who will ride his last Giro.
source:
https://twitter.com/Ursuswheels/status/595611874403713025/photo/1

 

[Netserk]

Although it's an improvement, the team is still far away from its glowing past.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Re: Re:

yes you understand what i am saying - i just think if 2 groups finish say 1 second apart then the time gap should be 1 second. i dont see why that would result in a mess - it seems perfectly logical to me. it seems unfair that if there is a small split in a finish then the riders behind the split get penalised several seconds in effect.

The sporting priority is to credit the winner, and those close to him, over the 'mediocre' performance, rather than to minimise the difference between a lead group hanger on and a lead group misser-out.

 

[Kokoso]

Don't you know guys why Oskar Svendsen ended career? He looked like good prospect (many will remember record VO2max.)

 

[rote_laterne]

Don't you know guys why Oskar Svendsen ended career? He looked like good prospect (many will remember record VO2max.)

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4180&p=1579158&hilit=Svendsen#p1579158

 

[Kokoso]

Don't you know guys why Oskar Svendsen ended career? He looked like good prospect (many will remember record VO2max.)

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4180&p=1579158&hilit=Svendsen#p1579158

Thank you.

 

[neineinei]

Interview w/Oskar Svendsen from September 2014: http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/09/18/sport/sykkel/procycling/procyclingno/35331746/ (Norw)
Interview w/Oskar Svendsen from November 2014: http://www.procycling.no/verdensmester-fra-2012-trapper-ned/ (Norw)

The national team coach, Stig Kristiansen, was guest commentator on Eurosport yesterday and talked a little about him: Svendsen has been riding his bike, they are hoping he will come back, there is more to life than cycling and VO2 max.

Kristiansen also said that any rider concidered a climbing talent has a VO2 max of over 90. He mentioned MTB'er Sondre Kristiansen (son of former marathon WR holder Ingrid Kristiansen) and L.P. Nordhaug as having VO2 max of over 90.

 

[pastronef]

Francesco Reda (winner of stage 1) has been thrown out of the An Post Ras, for hanging on his car for too long after a puncture. not deafting. hanging with a hand to the car. that's what the jury said
but it seems things were not so clear

here's his reaction

https://www.twitter.com/francesco_reda/status/600349692879220737

 

[lemon cheese cake]

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