GEOX Quits !

[Netserk]

cobo need a very good mentor that understand him like matxin, not gianetti, reason cobo had succes was always matxin that understand him and motivate him, also he need to be in team with other strong contenders als he had in saunier with piepoli and ricco, contador could be perfect

Thanks

But to me the biggest obstacle for him to join Saxo is that he won't be leader in the Vuelta, which I got the impression was important for him? Or would he be happy with having less pressure on him like Klöden??

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

That's the problem: it's a prep race. It doesn't matter that the field is stronger than in the Giro. That's besides the point.

not the organizers fault.
when they want to move it back to spring everyone has a cry and winge.
destined to come short.

 

[roundabout]

Here's a hint: Geox going to put even more money in F1 next year. Economic crisis my ass.

Doesn't Geox sponsor Red Bull in F1? The top team in the respective sport as opposed to team Gianetti which is a million miles away.

 

[El Pistolero]

Doesn't Geox sponsor Red Bull in F1? The top team in the respective sport as opposed to team Gianetti which is a million miles away.

Yeah, Geox isn't pulling out because of the economic crisis... But because the World Tour is the most crappy system ever.

 

[Nielsa]

Thanks

But to me the biggest obstacle for him to join Saxo is that he won't be leader in the Vuelta, which I got the impression was important for him? Or would he be happy with having less pressure on him like Klöden??

If Vuelta leadership is a question of Cobo or CA Sørensen, I'm pretty sure Riis chooses Cobo.

 

[will10]

If Vuelta leadership is a question of Cobo or CA Sørensen, I'm pretty sure Riis chooses Cobo.

AC said he would probably do the Vuelta next year. can't see him riding for Cobo

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

AC said he would probably do the Vuelta next year.

Yeah, he did, but in other interviews he merely said that he didn't rule it out. I don't think it's very likely.

 

[jens_attacks]

matxin said that he hopes something good will happen.lol maybe gianetti comes again with a sponsor from nowhere.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

not the organizers fault.

The way the third week of the Vuelta is designed is the organizers' fault.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Been one of the worst years for sponsor bailouts that I can remember.
Very depressing.
Another casualty of Pat's global expansion vision, or was it just inevitable?

what the hell does that have to do with it. here's a hint global crisis?

What the hell does selecting one half of a sentence, out of context, to get all supercilious have to do with it?
As others have already pointed out, Geox have allocated funds for F1.
So, the global crisis may not have been the consuming factor.
Just as the wacky WT system may, or may not have been an influence of their decision.
More on this, here:
http://inrng.com/2011/10/geox-team-future-in-doubt/

Geox itself is a well-established Italian shoemaker and seemingly in fine financial health.

 

[Duartista]

Seems unlikely Riis will have the money for Cobo or Menchov unless Contador is banned. If Katusha or Astana are interested they'll easily outbid Saxo (although I agree Saxo would be best for Cobo).

I think Duarte, De La Fuente, Valls are more realistic targets for Riis. Maybe Ardila, but he has had a dreadful season.

 

[luckyboy]

Yeah if he can get two of those three, or even just Duarte, then Saxo will be set.

Menchov will be too expensive & probably not too willing to domestique at the Tour, and Cobo's psychological problems in the past would stop me from spending a fair amount on him.
Riis is a very good motivator though.

 

[jens_attacks]

let's not forget that gianetti should have known about this since last year,about the thing that his sponsor is unstable.don't you think maybe he has a plan b?there are rumours that he was talking to other sponsors all this year.
nobody left the ship yet which is maybe a sign.a good sign.

also how much do you think geox was giving to the team in one year?i've heard about the incredible sum of just 3-4 millions euros.geox,cheap fuccs!the other sponsors were giving pretty much the same amount of money.
stupid shoes bleah!

 

[3wheeler]

Cann't see Cobo winning to Much . I think hes had his Day in the Sun at the Vuelta.. His Card has been Numbered now.. So not sure where he will end up..

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Thanks

But to me the biggest obstacle for him to join Saxo is that he won't be leader in the Vuelta, which I got the impression was important for him? Or would he be happy with having less pressure on him like Klöden??

he usually doesn;t coop well with pressure. but this vuelta could mean a total change in that. it's hard to say

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What the hell does selecting one half of a sentence, out of context, to get all supercilious have to do with it?
As others have already pointed out, Geox have allocated funds for F1.
So, the global crisis may not have been the consuming factor.
Just as the wacky WT system may, or may not have been an influence of their decision.
More on this, here:
http://inrng.com/2011/10/geox-team-future-in-doubt/

again, what the hell does pat's global cycling has to do with world tour. exatcly how many non-european exotic wt teams are there?

geox out is one reason, gianetti

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Seems unlikely Riis will have the money for Cobo or Menchov unless Contador is banned. If Katusha or Astana are interested they'll easily outbid Saxo (although I agree Saxo would be best for Cobo).

I think Duarte, De La Fuente, Valls are more realistic targets for Riis. Maybe Ardila, but he has had a dreadful season.

duarte got paid quite a bit by geox. I doubt it and coldeportes will offer more surly. remaisn to be seen where he will go.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

let's not forget that gianetti should have known about this since last year,about the thing that his sponsor is unstable.don't you think maybe he has a plan b?there are rumours that he was talking to other sponsors all this year.
nobody left the ship yet which is maybe a sign.a good sign.

also how much do you think geox was giving to the team in one year?i've heard about the incredible sum of just 3-4 millions euros.geox,cheap fuccs!the other sponsors were giving pretty much the same amount of money.
stupid shoes bleah!

could very well be. gianetti is the greatest networker in the world. he has never been left without a sponsor

 

[Mellow Velo]

Seems unlikely Riis will have the money for Cobo or Menchov unless Contador is banned. If Katusha or Astana are interested they'll easily outbid Saxo (although I agree Saxo would be best for Cobo).

I think Duarte, De La Fuente, Valls are more realistic targets for Riis. Maybe Ardila, but he has had a dreadful season.

It's very much a buyer's market. Should be able to get some bargain contracts.
Those riders you list should be the ones Saxo go after.

 

[Duartista]

duarte got paid quite a bit by geox. I doubt it and coldeportes will offer more surly. remaisn to be seen where he will go.

Maybe, but he will want to be on a team sure to give him GT rides.

 

[jens_attacks]

and now bjarne just said that he hasn't even 500.000 euros for transfers lol how broke is his team my god?he can't afford even noe gianetti.
weakest team in bjarne's history by far

 

[b.broadhurst]

Saxobanks squad is full now, they will have to get rid of riders first.

 

[b.broadhurst]

Saxo Bank 2012:

Contador
Menchov
Cobo
Hernandez
Navarro
De La Fuente
Duarte
Anker Sorensen
Sorensen

Riis get your money out, Contador wants more climbers.

 

[maltiv]

and now bjarne just said that he hasn't even 500.000 euros for transfers lol how broke is his team my god?he can't afford even noe gianetti.
weakest team in bjarne's history by far

The sad thing is that many of the decent riders on Geox will be content with a minimum wage. Many worldtour teams are full already and the Geox riders will probably happily ride for next to nothing as long as they can remain in the world tour, which is probably the main goal for 90% of them right now.

 

[Mellow Velo]

again, what the hell does pat's global cycling has to do with world tour. exatcly how many non-european exotic wt teams are there?

geox out is one reason, gianetti

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Isn't that the point of China etc?
It's a reference to the future not the present.

Gianetti is the one reason?
What happened to your Global crisis theory?

However, I agree he his the biggest factor.

The point was, that I wasn't saying that it was Pat's vision, rather asking if others felt it could be a possible factor...................which you clearly don't.
Of course, never let a sentence's full meaning get in the way of a patronizing response, eh?