I was just planning to forget all this and so that is the reason I haven't posted for so long, but I felt I needed to correct a few things that simply aren't true.
runninboy said:
I saw this thread when i was reading about stage 6 of the TDF and i have to step forward & defend Giant. While you obviously had a real problem with them, some of us have had nothing but good experiences with the brand.
I know a bike shop owner & racer who hung up his Litespeed Ultimate & started racing on a Giant TCR which he purchased (dealer cost of course).
I could go on & on about other companies but let me tell you the response is always the same, you raced it you crashed it you pay.
I maintain that it's not the product that I have a problem with - it's the way they dealt with my situation. I am glad you have had a good experience with Giant because I'm definitely not saying that this cannot occur (I'm sure many others have had positive experiences with Giant). But just because you have had a good experience does not mean everyone else will. Giant has worked for you, in this case they haven't worked for me.
uberbiker said:
Iceman I think you might need to tell the truth. Lets be honest, you didnt crash your bike at 30km/hr or whatever you claim did you now. Lets be honest, yes you or your car maybe?? was doing 30km/hr when with your bike on the roof of said car hit your bike into something overhead?? how am I doing so far??
You get some support from some other Giant hating self appointed bike experts on how bad Giant bicycles are and how they arent gonna buy another one, you yourself give advice to any of these idiots on never buying another Giant again yada yada yada.................
I didnt even bother reading past the first few posts and your photos. How about showing all of the bike, and maybe your roofrack and a close up of your cars roof eh?
Let's be honest here? Because it's so clear that you know that happened. How about you ask the two people walking down the road when I had my accident and the two cars that slowed down after I crashed and asked if i needed help. How about asking my dentist about the damage to my teeth and the doctors/nurses at the ED if they think my injuries were a result of self-harm? How about asking the guys at the bike shop if they thought i was a bit of an emo and ripped off quite a bit of skin and my chin just so i can get a free set of forks off them/the manufacturer.
But hey, it totally makes sense to spend $700 on medical bills, have a 4 week lay off, just so I can rip into a large global-national company and try stinge a free set of forks off them. How am I doing so far?
This is a public forum and granted you can have your opinion, but I have mine as well. As for the photos of my car and roofracks? They are about as real as the toothfairy
runninboy said:
It sure looks like that, however i also t boned a car years ago and my bike looked almost exactly like that. People and their little stories end up costing the rest of us, those stupid little nubs on my front fork because someone doesn't know how to tighten a skewer. Decals all over my bike because someone wanted to sue, now my frame costs 10 times as much.
Liars & cheaters should be shot as they take money out of all our pockets
I know how to tighten my skewer, I make sure it's on super tight before I go out on every ride. Believe me I despise liars and cheaters as much as you do, and if I didn't think I was in the right here, I wouldn't have brought it to this public forum and wasted your time, and it seems like your anguish as well.
runninboy said:
Ok so let me get this straight, even though it is pretty apparent the OP is lying that the damage was caused by the crash. You are MORE concerned about people like me who post to defend a brand that we like & have good experience with against someone who is trying to get something he does not deserve. Actions such as his cost Honest people their hard earned money, why wouldn't i complain? I hate when companies cheat people, but it is just as exasperating when people cheat companies.
I don't think Giant is a benevolent organization but they don't deserve to be skewered for refusing for a claim that No other bicycle manufacturer would honour. Giant sponsors alot of local teams & racing in addition to their Pro teams, i got a bike at cost years ago and have purchased 4 more Giants without sponsorship since. Simply because they perform better and are more durable than my previous 3 custom frames and a couple other high end off the shelf bikes. When someone does something i like i defend them.
sorry if that offends you cjeder
As I said, i also despise people that cheat and rip others off. And I would never, ever do that. You talk about honesty and defending people. If you
knew what actually happened to me, I think you would think differently. But hey, you can believe what you wish based on what I/others have said. I have no problem with that. But at the same time, I know what happened and I can't lie to myself or others. I agree, I don't think Giant is a benevolent organisation (far from it - they produce some fantastic products) and of course they shouldn't be blamed for something that wasn't their fault, but what they should be blamed for and be held accountable for was the way they dealt with this. In other industries, people that do this no longer have a job.
But saying all this, since it's 'pretty apparent' that I'm lying I guess you won't care what i write/say. But for me, it's important to inform others reading this thread as to what really happened. And if you don't agree and/or think what i write is a load of s--t, then that's fine too. As i've said on many occasions, everyone is free to have their own beliefs/opinions. It's what makes democratic countries such as ours such a great place to live in.
-Iceman