Giro 2012 Field Discussion/Rumours

[liamito]

Uran doing Giro gets me excited. Unless Sky have entirely changed their plan for Giro, he won't have the team fully supporting him. Uran/Henao/Nordhaug (unless he's doing Tour of Norway), with young 'uns like Thomas and Kennaugh in (potential) support could be exciting.

Google translation kept talking about his hair, so I'm a little clueless, but does it say at the end he'll decide at a later date whether or not to also ride the Tour or the Vuelta?

Below the picture is stated: Rigoberto Urán tiene el apoyo del equipo Sky para ser líder en la Flecha Valona, Lieja-Bastonia-Lieja, el Giro de Italia, y la Vuelta a España

But then at the bottom they state:
en el Tour trabajará a fondo para Wiggins.

I hope he does not have a plan to ride all three!?!?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Wonder how Siutsovs feeling, he was announced as the Giro leader when he signed (with large sections of the team obviously reserved for chain duty).

I don't believe that at all. he was never going to be a leader anywhere as I said. maybe a free role but that role is now over as well

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Below the picture is stated: Rigoberto Urán tiene el apoyo del equipo Sky para ser líder en la Flecha Valona, Lieja-Bastonia-Lieja, el Giro de Italia, y la Vuelta a España

But then at the bottom they state:
en el Tour trabajará a fondo para Wiggins.

I hope he does not have a plan to ride all three!?!?

I hope he won't do the tour. wiggins doesn't deserve him

 

[theyoungest]

he was going to aim for both giro and tour was the initial plan. now will evaluate how he fele after giro and what test results show or something how he recovers.

should be good then as uran has extremely good recuperation

Is his extremely good recuperation what caused him to completely collapse in the final stages of the Tour last year?

 

[Gloin22]

Is his extremely good recuperation what caused him to completely collapse in the final stages of the Tour last year?

Being sick is different though, recuperation doesn't matter when you sick. And he was quite sick.

 

[hatcher]

Wonder how Siutsovs feeling, he was announced as the Giro leader when he signed (with large sections of the team obviously reserved for chain duty).

He seems solidly in contention for one of the Tour spots.

Until this Uran news all I'd heard about Sky at the Giro this year was there would be no GC rider, and that they'd be going for stage wins, and for experience.

At this point I don't have a clue who the 9 will be. Trying to read the tea leaves in who is racing when, and with who has left me even more confused.

Maybe they've decided the three track guys won't have enough miles in their legs to ride (no race days scheduled for any of them between 11th March and Giro start on 5th May).

Uran + Henao for definite. It's a good start.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

I don't believe that at all. he was never going to be a leader anywhere as I said. maybe a free role but that role is now over as well

I know I'm probably talking to a brick wall, but whether you like the facts or not, Siutsov has better GT pedigree than Uran (only one of them was top 10 on last year's extremely hard Giro).

What was stated at the time about Siutsov leading was thus extremely plausible in the real world, rather than Columbia land in your head.

 

[hatcher]

Below the picture is stated: Rigoberto Urán tiene el apoyo del equipo Sky para ser líder en la Flecha Valona, Lieja-Bastonia-Lieja, el Giro de Italia, y la Vuelta a España

But then at the bottom they state:
en el Tour trabajará a fondo para Wiggins.

I hope he does not have a plan to ride all three!?!?

I would be very surprised! Sky learned last year that it's very easy to over-race Uran. If I had to guess I would say he'll do Giro and Vuelta. But who knows?

 

[theyoungest]

Being sick is different though, recuperation doesn't matter when you sick. And he was quite sick.

Ah okay. Although I've never seen any instances of this great recuperation, TBH. But of course Ryo knows better

I know I'm probably talking to a brick wall, but whether you like the facts or not, Siutsov has better GT pedigree than Uran (only one of them was top 10 on last year's extremely hard Giro).

What was stated at the time about Siutsov leading was thus extremely plausible in the real world, rather than Columbia land in your head.

Frequent error on these forums: the country is called Colombia.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Ah okay. Although I've never seen any instances of this great recuperation, TBH. But of course Ryo knows better


Frequent error on these forums: the country is called Colombia.

Columbia is actually the traditional English spelling (although being polite means many people now adopt the Spanish spelling).

Regardless as its an English language forum, I'll spell it as I have.

 

[Justin Pain]

Uran doing Giro gets me excited. Unless Sky have entirely changed their plan for Giro, he won't have the team fully supporting him. Uran/Henao/Nordhaug (unless he's doing Tour of Norway), with young 'uns like Thomas and Kennaugh in (potential) support could be exciting.

I read somewhere that he is doing T.o.Norway along with Eddy. If keep progressing maybe he gets a ticket to the Tour. But he is most likely scheduled for Vuelta.

Alexander Kristoff is doing the Giro, hope he takes a stage there.

 

[Gloin22]

Ah okay. Although I've never seen any instances of this great recuperation, TBH. But of course Ryo knows better

Indeed I don't think he's recuperation is that good, but I guess we'll find out in the Giro. Henao and Uran should be great

 

[theyoungest]

Columbia is actually the traditional English spelling (although being polite means many people now adopt the Spanish spelling).

Regardless as its an English language forum, I'll spell it as I have.

Columbia is the American river. Colombia is the country. And it has been that way for ages.

 

[liamito]

I would be very surprised! Sky learned last year that it's very easy to over-race Uran. If I had to guess I would say he'll do Giro and Vuelta. But who knows?

Yes, probably it is too early. If Froome confirms something of his Vuelta 11 then I agree Sky does not need Uran in the Tour.

 

[hatcher]

I read somewhere that he is doing T.o.Norway along with Eddy. If keep progressing maybe he gets a ticket to the Tour. But he is most likely scheduled for Vuelta.

Alexander Kristoff is doing the Giro, hope he takes a stage there.

I understand why he would ride Norway instead, but it would be a shame IMO if he doesn't do the Giro. He should make the most of this form he is in, and grab himself a Grand Tour stage win.

EBH is surely popular enough to handle all the Tour of Norway promotional stuff on his own!

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Columbia is the American river. Colombia is the country. And it has been that way for ages.

2 uses for the same word? Mindblowing!

Columbia is the correct English spelling - I do not care what other things you can use the word for.

I'm sure plenty of Americas get upset at the idea they might be called Etats Unis, but its still the correct spelling in French.

 

[gustienordic]

Yes, probably it is too early. If Froome confirms something of his Vuelta 11 then I agree Sky does not need Uran in the Tour.

I feel like the Giro & Vuelta climbs are closer to Uran's style as well, his explosiveness comes in handy on the short, steep climbs we see so often in those GTs

 

[theyoungest]

2 uses for the same word? Mindblowing!

Columbia is the correct English spelling - I do not care what other things you can use the word for.

I'm sure plenty of Americas get upset at the idea they might be called Etats Unis, but its still the correct spelling in French.

I don't know what kind of idiosyncratic dictionary you use, but the correct English spelling is Colombia.

 

[Gloin22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Is his extremely good recuperation what caused him to completely collapse in the final stages of the Tour last year?

your troll attempts are getting laughable and pathetic really.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Ah okay. Although I've never seen any instances of this great recuperation, TBH. But of course Ryo knows better


Frequent error on these forums: the country is called Colombia.

if you want to know. check the tour 2009. where uran was only 22. he was very strong the final days in the mountains. he even followed the favorites for a bit. besides tell me one colombian who doesn't have great recuperation or engine? they all have, even sprinters like duque and that is normal because of where they come from.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I know I'm probably talking to a brick wall, but whether you like the facts or not, Siutsov has better GT pedigree than Uran (only one of them was top 10 on last year's extremely hard Giro).

What was stated at the time about Siutsov leading was thus extremely plausible in the real world, rather than Columbia land in your head.

where was that stated then? sources pls.

and uran didn't ride last years giro and a 10th place in a gc. who the f*** cares. uran had the white jersye in his bag until he got sick

and columbia? I don't know that country

 

[Gloin22]

I don't think youngest is trolling at all imo. Too me not many people know that Uran got very sick at the end of the Tour. Except Tour he didn't ride many completed GT's so it's hard to tell really, but he does seem to have a good recuperation. I just hope he is not going to get sick at some point if he does Giro. With that field, I don't think podium is out of reach imo.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

the guy is from 1987. he's barely done any gt's. sivtsov is 5 years older and laughable at best to call him a better gt rider

 

[profff]

the real problem for rigo is the he will peak for the ardennes, so probably his condition will fade in the third week, which is the most important and difficult one.

in recent years only de luca was able to maintain his peak after the ardennes till the end of the giro....but this argument could be clinic related.