Giro 2014 Route Rumours

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[Eshnar]

the presentation starts at 15:00 cet

thank you

 

[Eshnar]

btw,
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/acquarone-given-precautionary-suspension-by-rcs-sport
not a reassuring thing.

 

[Netserk]

btw,
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/acquarone-given-precautionary-suspension-by-rcs-sport
not a reassuring thing.

Comeback to Zomegnan?

 

[Eshnar]

Comeback to Zomegnan?

I don't think Acquarone will go away. Looks like just a security measure. I'm just worried about the health of RCS.
Just think for a moment of ASO stepping in.

 

[Descender]

I don't think Acquarone will go away. Looks like just a security measure. I'm just worried about the health of RCS.
Just think for a moment of ASO stepping in.

Yeah, that might end up leading to the Giro designing routes like the Vuelta: backloaded, with tons of MTFs and no descent finishes.

Oh wait...

 

[McLovin]

So they put 7-8 MTF per Giro to distract world's attention from this fraud. Now we are sure ASO has nothing to hide.

 

[Eshnar]

Yeah, that might end up leading to the Giro designing routes like the Vuelta: backloaded, with tons of MTFs and no descent finishes.

Oh wait...

That was happening in the age of Zomegnan too... As a matter of facts, how many descent finishes did Zome make?

 

[roundabout]

When was the first Zomegnan route? 2006?

Oh, wiki says 2004. Then it's worse than I thought.

 

[roundabout]

Okay high mountain stages with descent finishes in the age of Zomegnan

The one where Cunego won the Giro in 2004

Presolana (?) the same year

Livigno in 2005

La Thuile in 2006

Briancon in 2007 (not counting the Murito to the finish)

Bergamo in 2007 (arguable that it was a high mountain stage)

2008 and 2009 I think there were none

Over the Monte Grappa in 2010

And none in 2011

I think that's about right?

Oh, right, forgot all about the worst Mortirolo stage ever in 2008.

 

[Descender]

Okay high mountain stages with descent finishes in the age of Zomegnan

The one where Cunego won the Giro in 2004

Presolana (?) the same year

Livigno in 2005

La Thuile in 2006

Briancon in 2007 (not counting the Murito to the finish)

Bergamo in 2007 (arguable that it was a high mountain stage)

2008 and 2009 I think there were none

Over the Monte Grappa in 2010

And none in 2011

I think that's about right?

Oh, right, forgot all about the worst Mortirolo stage ever in 2008.

Yes, was about to point that out.

Also in 2009 we had this:

This:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2009//giro09/graphics/profile11.gif

This:

And this:

 

[Eshnar]

If you count those last three then also last year's Ivrea stage was a descent finish. As well as the stages to Vicenza and Ascea, and the Sestri Levante stage of 2012.
Of all the stages listed a few were finishing on really short descents (Livigno 2005, Falzes 2004 and Presolana 2004 are as descent finishes as Angliru is...)

I'd say the only real descent finishes were Briancon 2007 (even though was an uphill sprint), Asolo 2010, La Thuile 2006 and Bergamo 2007.

4 out of 8 editions.

 

[roundabout]

That Chiavenna stage was brilliant. Not only the downhill, but also a "GPM" at Passo Maloja

I suppose Pinerolo counts

 

[Descender]

If you count those last three then also last year's Ivrea stage was a descent finish. As well as the stages to Vicenza and Ascea, and the Sestri Levante stage of 2012.
Of all the stages listed a few were finishing on really short descents (Livigno 2005, Falzes 2004 and Presolana 2004 are as descent finishes as Angliru is...)

I'd say the only real descent finishes were Briancon 2007 (even though was an uphill sprint), Asolo 2010, La Thuile 2006 and Bergamo 2007.

4 out of 8 editions.

That is having a very narrow definition of "descent finishes".

Even taking the broader sense (Pinerolo, Ivrea, Grappa), how many descent finishes are we going to see in 2014?

 

[Eshnar]

That is having a very narrow definition of "descent finishes".

Even taking the broader sense (Pinerolo, Ivrea, Grappa), how many descent finishes are we going to see in 2014?

if we take a broader definition, then you should be very happy of the 2013 route. But I seem to recall you weren't

This year I have no clue I'm afraid. They could make one to Foligno, to Savona and to Rivarolo if they want. I believe Rivarolo will be flat, but the other two could be.

 

[Descender]

if we take a broader definition, then you should be very happy of the 2013 route. But I seem to recall you weren't

This year I have no clue I'm afraid. They could make one to Foligno, to Savona and to Rivarolo if they want. I believe Rivarolo will be flat, but the other two could be.

A route is much more than the number of descent finishes. And if you read what I said, those two stages to Ivrea and... forgot the name of the other one were one of the (few) positive points I mentioned.

 

[Eshnar]

A route is much more than the number of descent finishes. And if you read what I said, those two stages to Ivrea and... forgot the name of the other one were one of the (few) positive points I mentioned.

since you were complaining about the lack of descent finishes I thought you had a narrower definition too, that's all.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Guys how come you are assuming the Grappa TT will be 30km. When i use Google maps it says Grappa an the start are only 22k,5km seperated

 

[jens_attacks]

Acquarone: di luca needs help


lol....grande killer still bossing the abruzzo and will have his own team soon and cacquarone going to jail...sweet

 

[Eshnar]

Guys how come you are assuming the Grappa TT will be 30km. When i use Google maps it says Grappa an the start are only 22k,5km seperated

Depends on what route you choose. The rumoured one is the side from Romano D'Ezzelino which measures 26 km

plus you need to add the distance between Bassano and that town, 3-4 kms.

 

[Eshnar]

this route. 30 kms. Ofc it depends on the exact starting point.

 

[Bavarianrider]

this route. 30 kms. Ofc it depends on the exact starting point.

Thanks, that'd be really nice.

 

[element]

Strava profile and route info for TTT - http://app.strava.com/routes/29488

 

[OlavEH]

Isolated from the rest of the stage Rifugio Panarotta and Montecampione looks like great climbs. Long and fairly steep. Too bad there aren't any climbs which can be used in close connections with these, so whatever route they choose it will be a flat section before the last climb.

This is actually the only negative thing about the mountains in Italy. There are where few of the longer and more natural stage finish climbs like Montecampione, Alpe di Siusi, Monte Bondone, Merano 2000, etc., which can be coupled with the toughest and best climbs like Stelvio, Gavia, Mortirolo, Manghen, Sampeyre, Finestre, Fedaia, Giau, etc.

 

[aleale]

This is the list of the stages, I believe that 99% of the Giro d'Italia 2014 will be this.

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2014/giro-ditalia-2014-le-tappe-anteprima/