Giro 2017, stage 14: Castellania – Oropa 131 km

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Considering past performances, I was more surprised at Blockhaus than at this tbh. Quintana was just a bit underwhelming and Dumoulin has proven himself at these types of stages before at the Vuelta..... As impressive as this performance was, people are overreacting a bit.

 

[Climbing]

Quintana looks completely disgruntled in the interview.
Understandably.
Immense Domu.
Too good the face of Nairo when he looked back...

 

[silvergrenade]

Only 30 secs slower than Pantani!
Incredible!

 

[portugal11]

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I said million times!!! This guy is the real deal, i say since day one, dumoulin will be the major threat to quintana

I thought you said Pinot was going to be?

We have a new Froome!

And he doesn't come from GB!!

VAI TOM!!! VAI!!!!

Nationalism at its finest

What? I said pinot won't even finish inside top5

 

[Amsterhammer]

Wow. That was beyond impressive. We have a new boss!

 

[Climbing]

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Nibali usual old mistakes, though there isn't much to do against this beast.

I don't know... It looked to me like Nibs didn't really have it to stay with the other guys

Yeah, you're right, he rode smartly, just didn't have the legs of those in front.

 

[SeriousSam]

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Considering past performances, I was more surprised at Blockhaus than at this tbh. Quintana was just a bit underwhelming and Dumoulin has proven himself at these types of stages before at the Vuelta..... As impressive as this performance was, people are overreacting a bit.

Agreed, today doesn't really tell us anything about whether Dumoulin is susceptible to breaking down in a multi mountain stage.

But the time gain on Quintana is notable. Those additional 25 seconds, with a TT still to come, is getting Dumoulin into the territory where he can survive a minor crisis.

 

[Brullnux]

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I said million times!!! This guy is the real deal, i say since day one, dumoulin will be the major threat to quintana

I thought you said Pinot was going to be?

We have a new Froome!

And he doesn't come from GB!!

VAI TOM!!! VAI!!!!

Nationalism at its finest

What? I said pinot won't even finish inside top5

Yeah my bad

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

So what stage will Dumoulin crash out in, Dutchies?

 

[bob.a.feet]

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Dumoulin absolutely is the new Indurain!

I like this comparison more than the Wiggins one because, like Indurain, Tom is a far better climber than Wiggins.

 

[carton]

Really Nairo? You learnt nothing at LPSM? Ridiculous attack. Going from so far out against a rider like Tom on a climb like this is a surefire way to lose Grand Tours. The only good thing is that there are no more stages like this for him to screw up this Giro. So onwards and upwards.

Great ride by Doumulin, though. Awesome win.

 

[El Pistolero]

Dumoulin's main weakness is still multi-mountain stages, so he needs to attack tomorrow as well and try and gain time on Quintana. 2 minutes and 47 seconds is not enough.

 

[frisenfruitig]

I have to admit I didn't expect Dumoulin to be this good of a climber. Sure, it was only one climb and a very short stage but taking 10 seconds on Quintana and dropping guys like Nibali and Pinot is very impressive indeed. I was expecting him to hang on in the climbs and try to make up lost time in the TTs but this... Kinda makes me sad he didn't go for the TdF instead. Would have been nice if Froome had a competitor who knew how to climb AND TT for once.

 

[SeriousSam]

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For what it's worth, it should be said that Quintana is nowhere near his best. He didn't distance the others (not just Tom) with that attack has he usualy does.

"The others" could ride Dumoulin's wheel at a perfect unchanging pace. I'm not sure that Zakarin and Landa managing to hold on to Dumoulin tells us much about Quintana's level.

Although this raises the question of what Quintana's "best" actually is. When was the last time he was better than this? It certainly wasn't last year.

It's his consistency in climbing and that his edge increases towards the end of the GT, and least when he's on (last year at the Tour he wasn't). Zakarin was good today, lost a lot of time on Blockhaus. Pinot was good on Blockhaus, lost time today. Quintana, though, is just consistently good.

 

[kingjr]

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Only 30 secs slower than Pantani!
Incredible!

i think that's without taking Pantanis mechanical into account.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Really Nairo? You learnt nothing at LPSM? Ridiculous attack. Going from so far out against a rider like Tom on a climb like this is a surefire way to lose Grand Tours. The only good thing is that there are no more stages like this for him to screw up this Giro. So onwards and upwards.

Great ride by Doumulin, though. Awesome win.

Dude, what? He did exactly the same at Blockhaus (albeit thats a harder climb), its the only way a rider like Nairo can win.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Dumoulin's main weakness is still multi-mountain stages, so he needs to attack tomorrow as well and try and gain time on Quintana. 2 minutes and 47 seconds is not enough.

2 minutes, 47 seconds and an ITT in hand. He is getting nearer to a situation where he can get murdered on one multi climb stage and still win.

 

[Irondan]

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Dumoulin's main weakness is still multi-mountain stages, so he needs to attack tomorrow as well and try and gain time on Quintana. 2 minutes and 47 seconds is not enough.

Movistar's too strong and tomorrow's stage isn't hard enough for Dumoulin to gain any time, unless he wins the stage and time bonus.

 

[kingjr]

Glad to see Zakarin finding his climbing legs btw.

 

[Climbing]

Muahahah there is a small mistake on Steephill GC:


General Classification after Stage 14
NED 1 DUMOULIN, Tom (SUNWEB) 59:31:17
COL 2 QUINTANA, Nairo (MOVISTAR) + 2:47
FRA 3 PINOT, Thibaut (FDJ) + 3:25
ITA 4 NIBALI, Vincenzo (BAHRAIN - MERIDA) + 3:40
RUS 5 ZAKARIN, Ilnur (KATUSHA ALPECIN) + 4:24
NED 6 MOLLEMA, Bauke (TREK - SEGAFREDO) + 4:32
EST 7 KANGERT, Tanel (ASTANA) + 4:56
ITA 8 POZZATO, Filippo (WILIER TRIESTINA - SELLE ITALIA) + 4:59
LUX 9 JUNGELS, Bob (QUICK - STEP FLOORS) + 5:28
CRC 10 AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA, Andrey (MOVISTAR) + 5:36

 

[Brullnux]

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Only 30 secs slower than Pantani!
Incredible!

i think that's without taking Pantanis mechanical into account.

I don't know, but it's still 30 seconds quicker than vintage Piepoli.

 

[ice&fire]

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Muahahah there is a small mistake on Steephill GC:


General Classification after Stage 14
NED 1 DUMOULIN, Tom (SUNWEB) 59:31:17
COL 2 QUINTANA, Nairo (MOVISTAR) + 2:47
FRA 3 PINOT, Thibaut (FDJ) + 3:25
ITA 4 NIBALI, Vincenzo (BAHRAIN - MERIDA) + 3:40
RUS 5 ZAKARIN, Ilnur (KATUSHA ALPECIN) + 4:24
NED 6 MOLLEMA, Bauke (TREK - SEGAFREDO) + 4:32
EST 7 KANGERT, Tanel (ASTANA) + 4:56
ITA 8 POZZATO, Filippo (WILIER TRIESTINA - SELLE ITALIA) + 4:59
LUX 9 JUNGELS, Bob (QUICK - STEP FLOORS) + 5:28
CRC 10 AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA, Andrey (MOVISTAR) + 5:36

It must be pozz...something 😀

 

[Amsterhammer]

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Dumoulin's main weakness is still multi-mountain stages, so he needs to attack tomorrow as well and try and gain time on Quintana. 2 minutes and 47 seconds is not enough.

2 minutes, 47 seconds and an ITT in hand. He is getting nearer to a situation where he can get murdered on one multi climb stage and still win.

Agreed. btw, I always meant to tell you how much I enjoy your handle. 😉

 

[IndianCyclist]

Movistar will go into panic mode.
FDJ & Bahrain looked defeated and will go into consolidation mode

 

[killswitch]

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Movistar will go into panic mode.
FDJ & Bahrain looked defeated and will go into consolidation mode

Nah, for Nibali it's all or nothing, he doesn't care about a podium place, only for the win.