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Giro 2017, stage 15: Valdengo – Bergamo 199 km

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silvergrenade said:
Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?
Tour 2015 Stage 19 too(Only Successful Stage in the whole Tour)

Froome only lost a couple of seconds on stage 19 in the Tour that year, Nibali finished more than a minute ahead, despite having been in the attack on his own for a much longer period of time than Froome. He was just stronger that day. A shame he had a flat tire the following stage or he'd have been on the podium as well.
 
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Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?

Got it. So Nibali's now using his special power to put out of action his friend who was not really going to be a podium contender. Okay.
 
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Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?
Vuelta 2010, giro 2011 (if he was smarter he would have won after contador's ban). :surprised:
 
Today Orica set the benchmark in how to ride mountain days to try to stop the dominance of Sky at the TDF - Ride hard on the flat for 40 or 50 kms before the climbs to weaken the teams that are top heavy with climbers - Do this and you will reduce the tempo Sky can set on the mountains.
 
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El Pistolero said:
silvergrenade said:
Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?
Tour 2015 Stage 19 too(Only Successful Stage in the whole Tour)

Froome only lost a couple of seconds on stage 19 in the Tour that year, Nibali finished more than a minute ahead, despite having been in the attack on his own for a much longer period of time than Froome. He was just stronger that day. A shame he had a flat tire the following stage or he'd have been on the podium as well.
That's quite a stretch. He'd have had to finish within 5 seconds of Quintana on Alpe d'Huez to reach the podium. Possible, perhaps, but far from likely.
 
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starlord said:
Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?

Got it. So Nibali's now using his special power to put out of action his friend who was not really going to be a podium contender. Okay.

As I said earlier it's getting out of hands, the voodoo has a mind of its own. It's so powerful it might take even Nibali out.
 
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But when Quintana dropped back to get a more suitable sized bike, Bahrain-Merida did drive on.
Well it's not like Nibali ever showed any moral ethics when opponents fall or get a flat tire. That's Nibali for you

It is a race and they are pros. Paid to win. Morals or ethics does not come into it. That is most professional sports people for you.

To be looking to professional cycling for morals and ethics is LOL. :rolleyes:
 
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starlord said:
Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?

Got it. So Nibali's now using his special power to put out of action his friend who was not really going to be a podium contender. Okay.
It was I believe a reference to Quintana (and Thomas) crash, not Kangert's...
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Armchair cyclist said:
But when Quintana dropped back to get a more suitable sized bike, Bahrain-Merida did drive on.
Well it's not like Nibali ever showed any moral ethics when opponents fall or get a flat tire. That's Nibali for you
If he's leading then I think he probably would slow down, especially for a small gap. If he's behind them he wouldn't slow down.
 
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yaco said:
Today Orica set the benchmark in how to ride mountain days to try to stop the dominance of Sky at the TDF - Ride hard on the flat for 40 or 50 kms before the climbs to weaken the teams that are top heavy with climbers - Do this and you will reduce the tempo Sky can set on the mountains.

And also burn yourself out in the process, without getting any reward for it. Hardly a benchmark. Still it was worth a go, rest day tomorrow. :cool:
 
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Stilletto said:
Kangert out for the season... bit of a hexed team this season Astana.
6/7 months recovery
A broken elbow actually is a tricky injury. Mine was broken as a kid and the joint grew together wrong. The doctor said back in 2014 I should be happy that I'm able to move and stop lamenting about the skew arm! So Kangert seriously needs slow and professional surgery so nothing goes wrong.
 
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starlord said:
Ataraxus said:
starlord said:
silvergrenade said:
Voodoo charm is strong. Already 2 GC men down
What are these voodoo posts all about?

let me ask a question for you to figure it out yourself.

What do:
Tour 2014 stage 5
Tour 2014 stage 10
Giro 2016 stage 10 and
Giro 2016 stage 19
have in common?

Got it. So Nibali's now using his special power to put out of action his friend who was not really going to be a podium contender. Okay.

Voodoos sometimes do work in mysterious ways. Maybe this was just a spark for a big meteoric one planned to come in third week.
 
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This is the last time in the next couple of years, we'll see Rui Costa leading a WT team on a Grand Tour again.

Hopefully, He will learn this time without having an "illness" or "working for someone else" type of excuse, that he must focus in what it's best.

1 week hilly stage races and classics, where he's world's top-10.
 
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Tank Engine said:
yaco said:
Today Orica set the benchmark in how to ride mountain days to try to stop the dominance of Sky at the TDF - Ride hard on the flat for 40 or 50 kms before the climbs to weaken the teams that are top heavy with climbers - Do this and you will reduce the tempo Sky can set on the mountains.

And also burn yourself out in the process, without getting any reward for it. Hardly a benchmark. Still it was worth a go, rest day tomorrow. :cool:
Yep.

First, Bahrain did smash it on the climb. Movistar could've had they wanted to. Sunweb wasn't there because they were weak. Rowe, Kiryenka, Thomas, Poels and Co aren't going to be all that worse for wear.

Second, who might be worse for wear? Nairo Quintana, the only active rider than can consistently take time off Froome up those climbs. Someone drills it like that onto a climb and Sky will send them a gift basket. Onto every climb in the tour? Everyone on that team should be getting a new car.

Now, if Dumoulin does turn out to be the second coming of Miguelon? Maybe that would work, if he can find a stronger team. The point would be to blunt Sky's edge and dissuade attacks, though.
 
Rui Costa is the kinda rider that will sit around top 15-20 and hope for a miracle break Òscar Pereiro-style (or just Arroyo and Porte-style) to get a good overall placing. I hate to break that to Rui but chances of that happening are super slim.

I don't get why he continuously is wasting energy trying to limit his losses day after day. Just realise you are a mediocre climber when the best riders are turning up for a race really focused to win that event! He has been in one break where he only was beat by an otherworldly Omar Fraile who could do just about anything that day, including making peace between Israel and Palestine!

He is born to win stages in GT's from the break.
 
I feel bad for Kangert...yikes, what a tumble. I'll be rooting for him to top-10 his next GC.

Pierre Rolland is long overdue. He keeps trying.

Jungels was the strongest today, big bravo! I hear a lot of voices criticizing Quintana for taking bonus seconds after the MR group waited for him. Maybe that gentlemen's rule should just be discarded: how many gentlemen have we seen as of late in cycling? Too few to keep that rule/tradition alive IMO. Hats off to Tom Dumoulin for showing that he's a gentleman. Respect.

But now here comes the 3rd week, and I have the feeling that it's going to be crazy. I believe that Dumourain can win, I wonder if Quintana/Movistar can anihilate him. And for the podium, I hope that Tibopino will be strong, he took a few seconds on Nibali today, but the Shark will bite. The question is: how hard? So far, his moves have backfired. Zakarin is an enigma. He will have one or more days off, I believe.

Great stage today and more to come.
 
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staubsauger said:
Stilletto said:
Kangert out for the season... bit of a hexed team this season Astana.
6/7 months recovery
A broken elbow actually is a tricky injury. Mine was broken as a kid and the joint grew together wrong. The doctor said back in 2014 I should be happy that I'm able to move and stop lamenting about the skew arm! So Kangert seriously needs slow and professional surgery so nothing goes wrong.

Yeah I went over my handlebars age 21 and ended up with a 'Y' fracture meaning the humerus split in 3:

T_or_Y.jpg


and also broke the end off my ulna. First thing I was told before surgery was I would never fully straighten my arm again, which turned out to be accurate. I had about 7-8 months of physio and two operations (the second was to take out a screw that was sticking out that I'd occasionally hit against doors etc - I don't need to tell you how sore that was). I was able to cycle again within a few weeks - they put in screws and plates to hold everything together.

The lucky thing for me was I fell 2km away from the best orthopaedic hospital in the country, so they did a good job putting me back together.