Giro 2017, stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen - Piancavallo 191 km

[Billie]

Traksel really made this up. Vanbelleghem who is sitting next to him doesn't believe it

 

[glassmoon]

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Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

That wont stop those that want to trash MS and Bahrain.

LOL czech commentators are claiming exact opposite - that Sunweb DS confirmed they did attack during t-b. Maybe they've got lost in the translation though.

 

[El Pistolero]

Let's just kill this sport, you're never allowed to attack. Someone will ALWAYS have an excuse. 'Oh no, the sun was shining in my eyes when they attacked, so unfair! Cheaters!'

Since when did this become a sport for pussies?

 

[Eagle]

Re: Giro 2017, stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen - Piancavallo 19

Brilliant tweet by McEwan - completely agree

What did he say?

"Quintana & Nibali have been consistent in this #Giro100 - between them they have attacked at every moment you're not supposed to #newschool"

What an idiot

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

Even if he went for a pee pee, did you watch the video? Dumo was strolling around at the back of the peloton on a sunday ride. He is in the pink jersey ffs. He thrash talked Nairo and Nibali and they can't dislodge him on the climbs.

From my point of view, basically no matter what with the information we have right now, is this on Dumoulin.

 

[Red Rick]

Sunweb DS confirmed the toilet break story was fake news.

 

[Ruby United]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

That wont stop those that want to trash MS and Bahrain.

LOL czech commentators are claiming exact opposite - that Sunweb DS confirmed they did attack during t-b. Maybe they've got lost in the translation though.

From Cyclingnews live text:
"Sunweb team manager Iwan Spekenbrink has claimed Dumoulin was on a nature break and was attacked by Movistar and Bahrain."

 

[Pirazziattacks]

Re: Giro 2017, stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen - Piancavallo 19

Brilliant tweet by McEwan - completely agree

What did he say?

"Quintana & Nibali have been consistent in this #Giro100 - between them they have attacked at every moment you're not supposed to #newschool"

What a lame, lame tweet. #Anglologic

Here we go, these pesky Anglos are ruining cycling again :lol:

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

That wont stop those that want to trash MS and Bahrain.

LOL czech commentators are claiming exact opposite - that Sunweb DS confirmed they did attack during t-b. Maybe they've got lost in the translation though.

From Cyclingnews live text:
"Sunweb team manager Iwan Spekenbrink has claimed Dumoulin was on a nature break and was attacked by Movistar and Bahrain."

Iwan Spekenbrink can't even tie his shoelaces together by himself, why would anyone trust him?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Let's just kill this sport, you're never allowed to attack. Someone will ALWAYS have an excuse. 'Oh no, the sun was shining in my eyes when they attacked, so unfair! Cheaters!'

Since when did this become a sport for pussies?

I think you'd have a different opinion if they'd attacked Nibali

 

[Red Rick]

The Anglo talk got old ages ago. Time to drop it.

 

[deValtos]

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Let's just kill this sport, you're never allowed to attack. Someone will ALWAYS have an excuse. 'Oh no, the sun was shining in my eyes when they attacked, so unfair! Cheaters!'

Since when did this become a sport for pussies?

Exactly. The fact Quintana keeps getting rewarded for being a coward this Giro is really irritating tbh. Bring back Pantani!

 

[fowlyetti]

Who is Landa going to lose to today?

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

Let's just kill this sport, you're never allowed to attack. Someone will ALWAYS have an excuse. 'Oh no, the sun was shining in my eyes when they attacked, so unfair! Cheaters!'

Since when did this become a sport for pussies?

I think you'd have a different opinion if they'd attacked Nibali

Not at all.

 

[SafeBet]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

"no, he was not stopped for a pee he was in the peloton. He was still at the back moving up before the descent."

That's what he said.

 

[dfromdub]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed the toilet break story was fake news.

From Cyclingnews live text:
"Sunweb team manager Iwan Spekenbrink has claimed Dumoulin was on a nature break and was attacked by Movistar and Bahrain."

I feel dizzy...

 

[hrotha]

It's hilarious to see some people here pretending there aren't conflicting reports about what happened

But hey, whatever suits your bias!

 

[ice&fire]

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Let's just kill this sport, you're never allowed to attack. Someone will ALWAYS have an excuse. 'Oh no, the sun was shining in my eyes when they attacked, so unfair! Cheaters!'

Since when did this become a sport for pussies?

Ask Fabian and Andy

 

[bambino]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

Why the hell would it matter? He was back in the peloton, confirmed. Do they all now need to wait that sits next to him before they can attack?

Was Kruijswijk, Mollema and Yated having group cross-pee with Dumoulin?

I don't think there was anything wrong with that attack. The blame goes to ***-up media of this Giro. Collectively.

 

[deValtos]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

"no, he was not stopped for a pee he was in the peloton. He was still at the back moving up before the descent."

That's what he said.

You can read two things from that still though. He was incompetent and just at the back of the group. OR he was moving up after a stop. We need to hear from the man himself Dumo. It's the only way to solve this.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

stage looks boring now. Still think this will crack some legs on the final climb. They might actually put time on Dumoulin now.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

Even if he went for a pee pee, did you watch the video? Dumo was strolling around at the back of the peloton on a sunday ride. He is in the pink jersey ffs. He thrash talked Nairo and Nibali and they can't dislodge him on the climbs.

From my point of view, basically no matter what with the information we have right now, is this on Dumoulin.

Well yes, of course you think that.

 

[Billie]

Re: Re:

Sunweb DS confirmed to RAI that Tom wasn't on a toilet break when they attacked. Heard with my ears.

Did they ask him in Italian, English or Dutch? Was there any ground for confusion on his part?

Asked in a very bad English, answered in a fairly good English. Re-asked for confirmation. Reply was very very clear. Tom was at the back of the peloton. No ground for confusion.

There's no issue about whether he was at the back of the peloton. The issue is whether he (and the other Dutchies) were back there because they were coming back from a natural break or not. There are conflicting reports on that.

I'm caught between hoping it's true because it's funny and hoping it's not because I would have to drastically reevaluate my opinion of a few riders I like downwards if they really did do it.

Why the hell would it matter? He was back in the peloton, confirmed. Do they all now need to wait that sits next to him before they can attack?

Was Kruijswijk, Mollema and Yated having group cross-pee with Dumoulin?

I don't think there was anything wrong with that attack. The blame goes to **** media of this Giro. Collectively.

It's just one guy. An ex-cyclist not a journo who made up the story

 

[Yingge]

Re: Giro 2017, stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen - Piancavallo 19

I guess that the facts will emerge in about 2 hours - when Tom gets asked after the finish.

 

[Billie]

Lol Traksel retracting his story now