Dumoulin the giraffe to lose 8 minutes to Yates. At least Chaves can't **** it up for Yates this time. Or can he?
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The giraffe? He's not even *that* tall, and then I suppose Yates is a mouse in your analogy?
The Chicken said:
The giraffe? He's not even *that* tall, and then I suppose Yates is a mouse in your analogy?
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Haven't rewatched that stage lately. That's why I'm asking. Basically that's my memory from 2003.
Wait Pantani and Popovych attacked quite a few times earlier on!?
Didn't Simoni attack from quite down the Col and literally made Popovych & Casagrande blow up when they tried to cope with him?Tonton said:
Haven't rewatched that stage lately. That's why I'm asking. Basically that's my memory from 2003.
Wait Pantani and Popovych attacked quite a few times earlier on!?
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He is a giraffe among the muntjacs. Pozzovivo is a Pudú.
But the analogy is alright.Stella0596 said:
He is a giraffe among the muntjacs. Pozzovivo is a Pudú.Re:
We expected better from you, something along the lines that Yates bends space-time behind him when he rides through the tunnels so he arrives to the finish while the rest of the bunch goes in a loop back to Ovaro.The Chicken said:
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Seriously, this is the point where no of you should answer to any posts written by the Chicken. If he was just a fanboy he wouldn't write his posts like this. He would write that he thinks Yates will win easily but he wouldn't insult other riders in every single comment he makes. This is purely about provoking and it won't get any better if you respond to the stuff he posts.
Seriously, this is the point where no of you should answer to any posts written by the Chicken. If he was just a fanboy he wouldn't write his posts like this. He would write that he thinks Yates will win easily but he wouldn't insult other riders in every single comment he makes. This is purely about provoking and it won't get any better if you respond to the stuff he posts.
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Fun fact: Nibali lost minutes on the ascent in 2007, but since then only Basso and Anton have climbed it faster.
But that's not important.
Never forget:
It's the fact that the easier final 2km come after the super steep middle section that makes the difference, most gys are cooked and those who still have something left can extend their lead by pushing bigger gears on the more moderate gradients. The more constant pace on the middle section won't really help Dumoulin that much, drafting is a non factor and if you don't push the same w/kg you get dropped. I hope for a hard pace already on Duron, Astana should make the race hard and I hope that FDJ have saved their firepower for this stage.Tonton said:
Fun fact: Nibali lost minutes on the ascent in 2007, but since then only Basso and Anton have climbed it faster.
But that's not important.
Never forget:
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Maybe the Zonc is too steep for specialist climbers to do much. It becomes a mountain TT that is a test of the best legs and sustained aerobic power output over 40 minutes after two weeks of racing. I think the Zoncolan might actually favour the defending champion. Dumoulin seems to be slowly improving based upon how he was closing on Yates at the end pf the last uphill finish. So far Yates has not shown an ability to sustain an attack for more than a few minutes. We will see.
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I think guys like Lopez, Formolo and maybe Carapaz will try to go earlier on the Zonc, from at least 5-6km to go. From the big guns I think Pozzo will try first, and that's where we will see who's strong and who is not. I'm curious about Yates, will he continue his phenomenal climbing performance. If he wins tomorrow, and if Dumoulin loses close to a minute, it's bad news for him and everybody else. But if someone else wins and Yates doesn't show as the strongest of the favorites, we'll have a spectacular racing till the very end of this Giro.
Lopez ftw.
Lopez ftw.
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The difference with a normal climb (like l'Alpe d'Huez) is that you don't really need to accelerate suddenly to drop the others. A steady pace in a relaxed style (as far as possible) should be enough to drop the lesser climbers. Basso in 2010 was excellent. I hope a few strong helpers will set a high pace in the first kilometers, and then, before halfway, the big guns make one big effort to the finish, enough to create big gaps. A real climber should be able to take a minute tomorrow on most of the others. The question is if there is a real climber (with good legs) in this Giro.
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Especially Di Luca! Remember Finestre?Gigs_98 said::lol:Lequack said:DNP-Old said:
Take me back to 07.
Probably didn't have power meters yet in 2007 so they didn't know their limits.
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No hiding tomorrow.
There's going to be natural selection and I suppose only those feeling really good will be able to attack regardless of what's happening in the group. It's tricky to try something just because some of rivals are struggling. On such a climb it's often better to keep spinning than to be tempted by someone's suffering. 100 meters on the hardest parts equal half a minute on the clock.
There's going to be natural selection and I suppose only those feeling really good will be able to attack regardless of what's happening in the group. It's tricky to try something just because some of rivals are struggling. On such a climb it's often better to keep spinning than to be tempted by someone's suffering. 100 meters on the hardest parts equal half a minute on the clock.
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I think the Yates brothers thrives the best on brutal climbs that are harder than Mur De Huy (which is almost too easy for them to win). I'm thinking Aia, Montelupone, Bordako Tontorra and Mirador De Ézaro.
But they are still among the best on the longer climbs as well. They are like a Purito duo.
But they are still among the best on the longer climbs as well. They are like a Purito duo.
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He hadn't been that good in a long time, but people forget about his performances form 1996 to 2000, nobody remembers that the guy was 5th on the Hautacam on the freaking Bjarne stage!Tonton said:Piepoli Giro '07 was one of my picks in the infamous draft
Predictions:
- Esteban Chavez DNS
- 1-2 GC guys will lose minutes (Froome? Aru? Dennis?)
- Time gaps will be small among the rest
- Most of the GC guys and their teams will keep something in reserve. Expect fireworks in Stage 15
- Stage 14 will be where someone loses the Giro. Stage 15 will be where someone wins it (Yates?)
- Esteban Chavez DNS
- 1-2 GC guys will lose minutes (Froome? Aru? Dennis?)
- Time gaps will be small among the rest
- Most of the GC guys and their teams will keep something in reserve. Expect fireworks in Stage 15
- Stage 14 will be where someone loses the Giro. Stage 15 will be where someone wins it (Yates?)
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