Giro d'Italia Giro d‘Italia 2024 Stage 15, Manerba del Garda-Livigno (Mottolino), 222 km

[Libertine Seguros]

Interview with Arensman

"How will you play your cards"

"That's the neat part. We wont"

I mean, easy memeing on the lack of adventure with Thomas as leader and all that, but it's an absolutely dumb interview question that we see asked 1000x a season, some endless amount of variations on "and what will your tactics be today?" as if anybody is going to disclose them so blatantly. It's actually quite a nice answer by Arensman as a result.

 

[Squire]

Wonder if the commentators have looked at the numbers for the climb. I keep hearing about the 'fearsome gradients' of the Mortirolo.

 

[ppanther92]

Now it seems UAE is cooked.

Yep, but I would say should he really want it, Pogacar together with Majka, Großschartner, Novak can gain 5min on the break on two tough climbs.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wonder if the commentators have looked at the numbers for the climb. I keep hearing about the 'fearsome gradients' of the Mortirolo.

I'm absolutely convinced from the way they are talking that they haven't actually realised it's not the Mortirolo they're thinking of.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Wonder if the commentators have looked at the numbers for the climb. I keep hearing about the 'fearsome gradients' of the Mortirolo.

Nope, they're just looking at the fact it's called Mortirolo and assuming it must be super hard because it's the Mortirolo. Same as when they rode up the main road into Montelupone in 2011 and the commentators hyped the muro as though they were using the same road as Tirreno-Adriatico in 2008 and 2009.

 

[ice&fire]

Yep, but I would say should he really want it, Pogacar together with Majka, Großschartner, Novak can gain 5min on the break on two tough climbs.

That's until Contador goes to interview the DS of teams in the break asking them why they don't help the Polti riders

 

[Brullnux]

That's until Contador goes to interview the DS of teams in the break asking them why they don't help the Polti riders

Contador is right, as is Basso. Polti as a PCT team having to do what all the WT should be doing

 

[Salvarani]

The riders looks cooked out there

 

[Brullnux]

Nope, they're just looking at the fact it's called Mortirolo and assuming it must be super hard because it's the Mortirolo. Same as when they rode up the main road into Montelupone in 2011 and the commentators hyped the muro as though they were using the same road as Tirreno-Adriatico in 2008 and 2009.

Nah they know it's the easy side, it's been mentioned a few times, they're just trying to keep tension up.

 

[Red Rick]

Chase group longer gaining

 

[ppanther92]

Potentially a lot of break riders (especially in the first group) are going to lose time fast. Some of them look quite cooked by the valley.

 

[Netserk]

What a glorious Polti train, pants on fire!

 

[ppanther92]

Go, Piganzoli, go

 

[ice&fire]

Contador is right, as is Basso. Polti as a PCT team having to do what all the WT should be doing

He needs to take advantage of his position and ask the right questions to the right people

 

[Red Rick]

I forgot but is Tiberi a good descender? I seem to remember Martinez, Thomas, and O Connor being average or worse

 

[ppanther92]

But wonder if Polti shouldn't have taken over bit earlier because of the numbers they have and because slipstream is not going to matter too much now.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Majka is going to have a hell of a job on his hands because Novak and Grosschartner don't have it on current form, I think Pogacar will need to go a bit early if he wants it.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

After taking some nice pulls for Scaroni‘s KOM chances, Harrison Wood drifts back to the Grupetto.

 

[search]

Contador is right, as is Basso. Polti as a PCT team having to do what all the WT should be doing

it's the sponsor's home stage, which is probably the main reason they are doing all this work

 

[Netserk]

Bjerg already done. I guess Laengen will have to do Mortirolo on his own.

 

[ppanther92]

Majka is going to have a hell of a job on his hands because Novak and Grosschartner don't have it on current form, I think Pogacar will need to go a bit early if he wants it.

Lets see but think Großschartner can potentially go for long time. On the only long hard climb so far (Prati di Tivo), he finished 27th and was in the group of last 15 favourites before handing over to Majka.

But yeah, in general - UAE just doesn't seem to be the team that gets it right on delivering the big team efforts.

 

[Samamba]

UAE is struggling.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The problem is UAE needs a power horse after Mortirolo. Will have to be Novak I guess.

 

[Red Rick]

Rowe saying now Thomas is the most likely rider to attack.

 

[Squire]

I forgot but is Tiberi a good descender? I seem to remember Martinez, Thomas, and O Connor being average or worse

Tiberi is a very competent descender.