Giro d'Italia Giro d‘Italia 2024 Stage 15, Manerba del Garda-Livigno (Mottolino), 222 km

[Lequack]

Lanterne rouge podcast

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[Netserk]

One little thing that does make me chuckle is how in 2018 Froome made this calculation that if he is the strongest rider in the race, the peloton gets blown up so everyone is on his own and he attacks with 80km to go he can do the unthinkable and gain 3 minutes on one stage. Meanwhile Pogacar has a little pull by Majka on 6% gradients, attacks and gains 3 minutes on 15km.

Yeah, I know, completely different scenario, completely different opponents, but still. The best gc rider in the world gaining 3 minutes was the craziest thing in 2018 and it took an insane 80km solo to achieve it. Now we are barely surprised when the likes of Pogacar and Vingegaard pull off this kind of stuff.

Tbf, Froome already had 2'45" on Sestriere.

 

[Gigs_98]

You still hurt from yesterday, it is ok. Feel better soon.

I really think I should stop replying, but I'm genuinely interested in what you even mean by that?

 

[Valv.Piti]

One little thing that does make me chuckle is how in 2018 Froome made this calculation that if he is the strongest rider in the race, the peloton gets blown up so everyone is on his own and he attacks with 80km to go he can do the unthinkable and gain 3 minutes on one stage. Meanwhile Pogacar has a little pull by Majka on 6% gradients, attacks and gains 3 minutes on 15km.

Yeah, I know, completely different scenario, completely different opponents, but still. The best gc rider in the world gaining 3 minutes was the craziest thing in 2018 and it took an insane 80km solo to achieve it. Now we are barely surprised when the likes of Pogacar and Vingegaard pull off this kind of stuff.

He basically gained 3 minutes on Foscagno alone. Completely mad. That was like 6-6,5 km. Now I know the rest didnt go as fast as they could, but still.

 

[skippo12]

Need one out of Pog/Vinge in every single GT. If only to be aware of the bigger picture. The way things are people have no reason to hype any other GC rider because no one will finish within 10 minutes of Pog.
Best case would be both going H2H but it's still better than a race that features 2nd/3rd tier GC riders fighting for the win.

 

[Unchained]

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[Offline]

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[Salvarani]

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Legendary and historic.

 

[Nick2413]

As far as the battle for podium goes, seems to be a 3 man battle now with Tiberi dropping big time today. O’Connor still not quite out of the picture.

 

[Sciatic]

Atilla Valter followed Pog just for this pic, and it was worth it

Awesome

 

[Salvarani]

Considering that Quintana, Bardet and Thomas are still finishing top 6 here... you do have to wonder what Froome would have continued to win without his Dauphine crash or would he have retired by now? Not been as successful at Israel anyway? Who knows.

 

[Peyroteo94]

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So, he did something like 7.4 w/kg for 13 minutes adjusted to sea level? Don't believe these numbers at all. Seems too good... unfortunately the only way to see Vingegaard and Pogacar's true level is by seeing both riding a "mano a mano"

 

[Red Rick]

One little thing that does make me chuckle is how in 2018 Froome made this calculation that if he is the strongest rider in the race, the peloton gets blown up so everyone is on his own and he attacks with 80km to go he can do the unthinkable and gain 3 minutes on one stage. Meanwhile Pogacar has a little pull by Majka on 6% gradients, attacks and gains 3 minutes on 15km.

Yeah, I know, completely different scenario, completely different opponents, but still. The best gc rider in the world gaining 3 minutes was the craziest thing in 2018 and it took an insane 80km solo to achieve it. Now we are barely surprised when the likes of Pogacar and Vingegaard pull off this kind of stuff.

Finestre was a case where the stage was so hard a really thin margin blew up to 3 minutes. Like I dont believe that was even Froome at the peak of his powers anymore

Oh and a funny one, do you rememver Valverde pulling back 2 minutes on Cobtador on Fuente De?

 

[Red Rick]

So, he did something like 7.4 w/kg for 13 minutes adjusted to sea level? Don't believe these numbers at all. Seems too good... unfortunately the only way to see Vingegaard and Pogacar's true level is by seeing both riding a "mano a mano"

Naichaca altitude adjustments are off the charts why does anyone talk about them.

Also, they havent mentioned the tailwind. Because ofcourse they didnt

 

[Peyroteo94]

Froome won almost 2 minutes because Reichenbach can descend worse than my grandmother

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Paul Double did better Watts on Tivo in Abruzzo than Pogacar today, meaning he would be in Pink right now, a generational mistake from Polti not bringing him.

This giro will forever be asterisked because of Lutsenko's abondon and Pogacar not having to work for Ulissi.

 

[kingjr]

Finestre was a case where the stage was so hard a really thin margin blew up to 3 minutes. Like I dont believe that was even Froome at the peak of his powers anymore

Oh and a funny one, do you rememver Valverde pulling back 2 minutes on Cobtador on Fuente De?

Oh yes And then he snatched the points jersey from Purito on the last stage, didn't he?

 

[tobydawq]

Tymen arensemn will win this giro.

You sure you didn't mean Aren-semen?

 

[Tim Cahill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792225744984191333

 

[Bolder]

Tbf, Froome already had 2'45" on Sestriere.

Yeah. That was actually far crazier than today. I was very entertained. Today was just normal Pog stuff vs a bunch of b level GC riders.

 

[tobydawq]

Novak done a lot quicker than I expected

Don't confuse him with the tennis player.

 

[Red Rick]

Don't confuse him with the tennis player.

Was really confusing him with Dennis Novak, yes

 

[tobydawq]

Its the queen stage and were climbing in the drops on the decisive climb

 

[Tim Cahill]

Froome only attacked early on that Finestre stage out of sheer panic from the beatdown Simon Yates was serving up, dropping some of the best cyclismo of the 21st century the two weeks prior. Luckily for Dawg, Yates had already decided to energy save for his main season-goal La Vuelta. Which he won. No charge for the analysis don't worry.

 

[tobydawq]

Instantly the motors get within 10 meters