Giro d'Italia Giro d’Italia 2024, Stage 7: Foligno – Perugia, 40.6k (ITT)

[AnotherArmChair]

It’s a real bummer that he was sick at the start of the Giro—I think he would have a good shot at a podium.

Still possible

 

[Mayomaniac]

Also, Fortunato did not as bad as feared. Just outside the stage top 30.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Uijtdebroeks has never finished in the top-30 in a non-NC, non-MTT time trial as a pro, by his standards this was excellent. Which says as much about his standards as this performance, but still.

It wasn't exactly good, but it could have been a lot worse, looking at Rubio or Lopez for instance. Had it been 30s faster, i would have said it was a good TT for him. Yet if you told him he'd finish less than a minute from Thomas and Bjerg before the start of the TT, he would have been ecstatic.

 

[Netserk]

Ok, what the hell Pogi. He really hammered that climb... 1:04 faster than Ganna, 32s faster than the 2nd fastest (Martinez).

Similar length of effort as Combloux, but less steep.

Vingegaard did the climb in 13'31" (26.9 km/h) and took 1'07" on Pogi and 1'30" on Bilbao.
Pogi did this climb in 12'14" (32.4 km/h) and took 32" on Martinez and 35" on O'Connor.

 

[ppanther92]

Similar length of effort as Combloux, but less steep.

Vingegaard did the climb in 13'31" (26.9 km/h) and took 1'07" on Pogi and 1'30" on Bilbao.
Pogi did this climb in 12'14" (32.4 km/h) and took 32" on Martinez and 35" on O'Connor.

Ok, well, Vingegaard was also the most outlandish ITT performance since at least Indurain.

 

[Froome]

Congratulations to Pogacar, great win. Probably one of his top 5 perfomances ever (still think LPDBF TT was his best perfomance ever).

I didn't expected looking at the profile, that the last climb was so difficult, so i didn't expected that Pogacar would recover the 47 plus 17 on Ganna, but the last climb was really difficult, so the route of this TT suited more Pogacar than i thought.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Ineos DS conceding Pog is hard to beat, was careful not to say too much about G's performance today.

 

[movingtarget]

Maybe expecting too much from Thomas now. After all he's almost 40. Still a decent ride. Plapp was surprising after yesterday and O'Connor had one of his best TT's. Ganna knew he was done with 3 kms to go. Pogacar was flying up the hill. Top 10 shake up as expected.

 

[Red Rick]

Similar length of effort as Combloux, but less steep.

Vingegaard did the climb in 13'31" (26.9 km/h) and took 1'07" on Pogi and 1'30" on Bilbao.
Pogi did this climb in 12'14" (32.4 km/h) and took 32" on Martinez and 35" on O'Connor.

Fatigue is the big difference I think. And I do believe Pogacar isn't at the level of the TdF last year.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

No one understands what Jens is saying, so not worth translating

Even if they understood still not worth it

Maybe expecting too much from Thomas now. After all he's almost 40. Still a decent ride. Plapp was surprising after yesterday and O'Connor had one of his best TT's. Ganna knew he was done with 3 kms to go. Pogacar was flying up the hill. Top 10 shake up as expected.

Think G will still podium as he is a tough old bird and will bounce back

 

[Nick2413]

Congratulations to Pogacar, great win. Probably one of his top 5 perfomances ever (still think LPDBF TT was his best perfomance ever).

I didn't expected looking at the profile, that the last climb was so difficult, so i didn't expected that Pogacar would recover the 47 plus 17 on Ganna, but the last climb was really difficult, so the route of this TT suited more Pogacar than i thought.

Top 5 TT performances behind PDBF and Combloux and possibly 1-2 other Tour ones, but not in my top 10 overall

 

[Gigs_98]

Similar length of effort as Combloux, but less steep.

Vingegaard did the climb in 13'31" (26.9 km/h) and took 1'07" on Pogi and 1'30" on Bilbao.
Pogi did this climb in 12'14" (32.4 km/h) and took 32" on Martinez and 35" on O'Connor.

I know we probably shouldn't compare results from completely different TTs but it's crazy how every time someone puts that Colomboux TT into a different context Vingegaards performance looks more insane than the last time.

 

[Froome]

Top 5 TT performances behind PDBF and Combloux and possibly 1-2 other Tour ones, but not in my top 10 overall

I was talking about the best perfomances of Pogacar in his career. Overall i agree, unless i misunderstood what you said, sorry.

 

[Red Rick]

I know we probably shouldn't compare results from completely different TTs but it's crazy how every time someone puts that Colomboux TT into a different context Vingegaards performance looks more insane than the last time.

Anyone have the time splits from the Bergen WC and perhaps the Ezaro Vuelta ITT?

Actually it's kinda more similar to Planche de Belles Filles with a much easier climb.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Tomorrow Juanpe and Bardet should go in the break

 

[Bolder]

GC wins at the Dauphine, Itzulia and Algarve in the last four years. It's going to be an interesting day tomorrow, for those behind Pogacar.

I hope this is finally his breakthrough GT. Been a fan since EF, and his helping Bernal in 2021 Giro was really inspiring. Hoping nothing goes wrong and for no jours sans in the mountains.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Last split was the stuff of legends,
Good TTs from DFM, if he can keep it together for 3 weeks he can podium.

 

[search]

Also, Fortunato did not as bad as feared. Just outside the stage top 30.

yeah, finished pretty much in the middle of those still in the GC picture. Not everyone went full out, I guess, but still not too bad:

1.	POGAČAR Tadej	51:44​
4.	ARENSMAN Thymen	52:44​
7.	PLAPP Luke	53:29​
8.	MARTÍNEZ Daniel Felipe	53:33​
10.	THOMAS Geraint	53:44​
11.	O'CONNOR Ben	53:51​
13.	LUTSENKO Alexey	54:07​
15.	ZANA Filippo	54:18​
18.	BARDET Romain	54:34​
20.	UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	54:39​
28.	STEINHAUSER Georg	54:51​
30.	PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien	55:14​
33.	FORTUNATO Lorenzo	55:21​
34.	PIGANZOLI Davide	55:36​
37.	HIRT Jan	55:53​
38.	LÓPEZ Juan Pedro	56:01​
41.	RUBIO Einer	56:04​
42.	BAUDIN Alex	56:07​
45.	STORER Michael	56:09​
46.	POZZOVIVO Domenico	56:17​
51.	VANSEVENANT Mauri	56:31​
67.	CHAVES Esteban	57:11​
79.	COVILI Luca	57:33​
98.	CONCI Nicola	58:09​

 

[Brullnux]

I feel everyone in the top 15 has a chance for a top 5, maybe even a podium. Weird race

 

[Bolder]

Tomorrow Juanpe and Bardet should go in the break

Too soon to panic like that. They need to see if they can move up on GC by attrition first, I think.

 

[Gigs_98]

Anyone have the time splits from the Bergen WC and perhaps the Ezaro Vuelta ITT?

Actually it's kinda more similar to Planche de Belles Filles with a much easier climb.

Here's the final section of the Mirador de Ezaro TT. The final split wasn't right at the bottom of the climb though so this includes about 7km of flat roads.

#	RIDER	TIME	BEHIND	AVG. SPEED
1	ROGLIČ Primož	16.05,28	16:05	34.311
2	MARTIN Dan	16.21,80	0:17	33.734
3	BARTA Will	16.22,77	0:18	33.701
4	CARTHY Hugh	16.29,11	0:24	33.485
5	CATTANEO Mattia	16.30,56	0:26	33.436
6	POELS Wout	16.31,30	,,	33.411
7	OLIVEIRA Nelson	16.31,47	,,	33.405
8	SOLER Marc	16.32,60	0:28	33.367
9	CHAMPOUSSIN Clément	16.38,78	0:34	33.160
10	ARMIRAIL Bruno	16.41,60	0:37	33.067

For Bergen I can only find the splits in the final result sheet. If I'm reading it correctly the top 5 seem to be:
1. Roglic
2. Dumoulin +5
3. Dennis +11
4. Tratnik + 24
5. Roche +27
...
9. Froome +30

 

[search]

Anyone have the time splits from the Bergen WC and perhaps the Ezaro Vuelta ITT?

Actually it's kinda more similar to Planche de Belles Filles with a much easier climb.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1323665216891162624

View: https://twitter.com/velofacts/status/1323665216891162624


Bergen PDF: https://prod.server.tissottiming.com/file/00030E0105010701FFFFFFFFFFFFFF02

https://twitter.com/x/status/910547868083212288

View: https://twitter.com/velofacts/status/910547868083212288

 

[topcat]

If Pog were to withdraw to battle a resurgent Vingo at the tour, we would get a really interesting race. Martinez, O Connor, Plapp, Tiberi and Lutsenko all fighting it out. Thomas looks like he's dying an agonising death but he might bounce back.

 

[Netserk]

Top-15 in GC by GC order	Time to T1	Time from T1 to T2	Time from T2 to Finish	Total time
Pogi	21'59"	17'31"	12'14"	51'44"
Martinez	+40"	+37"	+32"	+149"
Thomas	+08"	+32"	+1'20"	+2'00"
O'Connor	+42"	+50"	+35"	+2'07"
Plapp	+05"	+28"	+1'12"	+1'45"
Lutsenko	+41"	+45"	+57"	+2'23"
Uijtdebroeks	+57"	+59"	+59"	+2'55"
Tiberi	+23"	+18"	+40"	+1'21"
Zana	+39"	+43"	+1'12"	+2'34"
Fortunato	+1'12"	+1'21"	+1'04"	+3'37"
Arensman	-12"	+12"	+1'00"	+1'00"
Rubio	+1'11"	+1'25"	+1'44"	+4'20"
Hirt	+1'34"	+1'21"	+1'14"	+4'09"
Bardet	+102"	+1'00"	+48"	+2'50"
Juampe	+1'09"	+1'22"	+1'46"	+4'17"

 

[search]

If Pog were to withdraw to battle a resurgent Vingo at the tour, we would get a really interesting race. Martinez, O Connor, Plapp, Tiberi and Lutsenko all fighting it out. Thomas looks like he's dying an agonising death but he might bounce back.

the gearing may have played a part there as well, I guess? Thomas apparently was using a 66 tooth chainring.

Plapp said that they tried bigger ones during the recon, but came to the conclusion that you can't go any bigger than 56 (if I remember correctly).