Giro del Emillia, GP Beghelli and Pantini memorial

[jens_attacks]

i think this season approved Phil Gilbert as the winner in this nomination. Purito is very strong on such terrain but Rebellin is no worse. I don't believe you can win San Luca from the bottom of the climb, whole this race is the Fleche Wallonne of the Autumn, it unfolds pretty similar so i think it will be an uphill sprint between the likes of Rebellin, Purito, Dan Martin, maybe Fuglsang, Mollema and Pozzovivo...

ullrich would crush all those guys:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjUCOwcOT8&feature=player_embedded

also can't believe how old is rebellin.he's here since the beginning of time

 

[Tank Engine]

It just strikes me as bizarre to send an understrength team to a reasonably important race when you have one of the favourites. The riders they are actually sending are pretty strong, but it's not as if the rest of their team is tied up elsewhere and can't be spared.

I'm of the same opinion really. I guess it's possible they're suffering from illness/injuries, but I haven't heard anything.

 

[Ruvu75]

agreed for Moreno, but why on earth Purito can be unmotivated?

Well, as history makes clear, he hardly manages to get a good result after Vuelta a Espana or Worlds....
He has had a lot of racingdays again this year.so I can imagine he thinks it's enough for this year

 

[Ruvu75]

agreed for Moreno, but why on earth Purito can be unmotivated?

Well, as history makes clear, he hardly manages to get a good result after Vuelta a Espana or Worlds....
He has had a lot of racingdays again this year.so I can imagine he thinks it's enough for this year

Sabatini should have suited him also, but there he finishes almost 1.30 behind.

 

[Kvinto]

Well, as history makes clear, he hardly manages to get a good result after Vuelta a Espana or Worlds....
He has had a lot of racingdays again this year.so I can imagine he thinks it's enough for this year

Sabatini should have suited him also, but there he finishes almost 1.30 behind.

If that what Dani Moreno said after the finish is correct the last km of Coppa Sabatini was with 5-6% gradient and it isn't a ascent which fully suits Rodriguez in the comparison with the other favorites

 

[Ruvu75]

If that what Dani Moreno said after the finish is correct the last km of Coppa Sabatini was with 5-6% gradient and it isn't a ascent which fully suits Rodriguez in the comparison with the other favorites

Not? Well, I think he could have won on such a finish....

But if you're really motivated youd should at least have givin' it a try.

Coming home 1.30 behind shows zero ambition in my opinion.
But............ tomorrow is a whole different race of course

 

[Kvinto]

Not? Well, I think he could have won on such a finish....

But if you're really motivated youd should at least have givin' it a try.

Coming home 1.30 behind shows zero ambition in my opinion.
But............ tomorrow is a whole different race of course

yes, he could have, but on such a finish (5-6%) he is just one of the many who can, but if it gets steeper he becames one of the very few...

 

[Mellow Velo]

Why are Garmin only sending a five man team?

It just strikes me as bizarre to send an understrength team to a reasonably important race when you have one of the favourites. The riders they are actually sending are pretty strong, but it's not as if the rest of their team is tied up elsewhere and can't be spared.

They prefer to send a full strength team to a pretty unimportant race, call the Sun Herald, something or other.
Too many young Aussie riders wanting to see their mammas. (oh and Hennie Haussler)

Also, I have a nasty feeling that Rai Sport 2's published schedules are bogus.
NO live coverage, (according to radio corsa) but highlights at 18-30CET. (not 15-30 to 17-00CET)

 

[Tank Engine]

They prefer to send a full strength team to a pretty unimportant race, call the Sun Herald, something or other.
Too many young Aussie riders wanting to see their mammas. (oh and Hennie Haussler)

Also, I have a nasty feeling that Rai Sport 2's published schedules are bogus.
NO live coverage, (according to radio corsa) but highlights at 18-30CET. (not 15-30 to 17-00CET)

Thanks. I should have thought of that.

 

[Peccio89]

are you sure about the highlights? Cause on a couple of site they were announcing a live coverage

 

[Lupetto]

It's live on Rai Sport 2.

http://www.rai.it/dl/portale/GuidaProgrammi.html

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

They prefer to send a full strength team to a pretty unimportant race, call the Sun Herald, something or other.
Too many young Aussie riders wanting to see their mammas. (oh and Hennie Haussler)

For God's sake, from a sporting perspective that is a ridiculous decision. I understand that they don't have a choice about Beijing, but leaving yourself under manned for a reasonably important race that you might win in favour of a nothing race in Australia is just stupid. If Dan Martin gets stuck behind a break or selection or has a mechanical and has nobody to chase for him, I suspect he'll have a few words with team management. That's no criticism of the riders they are sending, who are actually a pretty strong subset of their team.

If I had to guess I suspect that choosing the Herald Sun Tour over the Italian one day races is a sponsor-driven thing. Presumably cycling is unusually prominent in Australia in the wake of Evans' Tour win, and Garmin do have a bunch of Australians on their books for a few more months.

 

[Anonymous]

I hate Rai. Its nigh on impossible to find a stream.

 

[auscyclefan94]

They prefer to send a full strength team to a pretty unimportant race, call the Sun Herald, something or other.
Too many young Aussie riders wanting to see their mammas. (oh and Hennie Haussler)

Also, I have a nasty feeling that Rai Sport 2's published schedules are bogus.
NO live coverage, (according to radio corsa) but highlights at 18-30CET. (not 15-30 to 17-00CET)

You really are clueless. The Herald Sun Tour is a 2.1 race in Victoria with a very good field. Herald Sun Tour is the oldest stage race in Australia and is a very good race. It is important for the sponsors as Garmin is an evolving company in Victoria so that exposure here is very good. The race follows on well with the Tour of Beijing due to the closeness of the time zones between Beijing and Melbourne. Also, what is wrong with riders wanting to race in front of their home crowd? Seems perfectly normal to me. It is also quite convenient to finish their season in a race that is on home soil and is close to home. Your stupidity never fails to baffle me.

 

[Tuarts]

For God's sake, from a sporting perspective that is a ridiculous decision. I understand that they don't have a choice about Beijing, but leaving yourself under manned for a reasonably important race that you might win in favour of a nothing race in Australia is just stupid. If Dan Martin gets stuck behind a break or selection or has a mechanical and has nobody to chase for him, I suspect he'll have a few words with team management. That's no criticism of the riders they are sending, who are actually a pretty strong subset of their team.

If I had to guess I suspect that choosing the Herald Sun Tour over the Italian one day races is a sponsor-driven thing. Presumably cycling is unusually prominent in Australia in the wake of Evans' Tour win, and Garmin do have a bunch of Australians on their books for a few more months.

How does the 6 men they are sending to the HST equal the rest of the Garming squad? This has likely been on these riders calender for awhile, as an end to their season. Garmin should be wondering why they've arranged all their rider's individual calenders so that they only have 5 riders available.

Maybe we should start a conspiracy theory thread for them too, they seem flavour of the month. Surely we can leap to some conclusion about the team disbanding if you count the paperwork "error", fielding weak teams and NO HUSHOVD!!!111-gate.

 

[Ferminal]

What is the point of sending Meyer/Bobridge/Wilson/Haussler/Lancaster to an Italian classic anyway? Where are Hesjedal, Tommy D, Vande Velde? It seems they all shut up shop after the American races?

 

[Kvinto]

What is the point of sending Meyer/Bobridge/Wilson/Haussler/Lancaster to an Italian classic anyway?

for fun

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

What is the point of sending Meyer/Bobridge/Wilson/Haussler/Lancaster to an Italian classic anyway? Where are Hesjedal, Tommy D, Vande Velde? It seems they all shut up shop after the American races?

Good question. The likes of Danielson, Hesjedal and Vande Velde are more obvious choices and they don't seem to be doing anything at all. I mean did they decide that they'd already done enough this season with their impressive total of zero wins between the three of them and they didn't need to bother turning up to races that might suit them?

But in their absence, it's still better to have some workhorses in there rather than leave the squad under manned. And they've sent those guys to the Herald Sun Tour instead, a race that means nothing. Note that they didn't send the actually good Australian rider they have on their books to Australia. He's over in China. It's just the workhorses.

There's no way that's a sporting decision. It's the same kind of sponsor-led drivel that had Cavendish puttering about the Tour of California one year when he should have been at the Giro.

 

[craig1985]

Lancaster and Wilson are both from Victoria so this is a home race, so I doubt it means nothing. I really don't see the point of sending them to the race when they will just DNF anyway.

 

[Kvinto]

I guess they should have sent the undermanned squad to Beijing instead seriously, it's a race for those who need the WT points, but Garmin isn't among such teams, at least M.Kreder and Talanski should have been sent to Italy.

 

[craig1985]

Except Farrar, so many North American top riders (mainly American) race the Tour and then go back to the States, and except for Utah, Colorado, and the Canadian WT races, they CBF racing for the rest of the season.

 

[Mellow Velo]

You really are clueless. The Herald Sun Tour is a 2.1 race in Victoria with a very good field. Herald Sun Tour is the oldest stage race in Australia and is a very good race. It is important for the sponsors as Garmin is an evolving company in Victoria so that exposure here is very good. The race follows on well with the Tour of Beijing due to the closeness of the time zones between Beijing and Melbourne. Also, what is wrong with riders wanting to race in front of their home crowd? Seems perfectly normal to me. It is also quite convenient to finish their season in a race that is on home soil and is close to home. Your stupidity never fails to baffle me.

My "stupidity" never fails to upset you. Never knew Aussies were so soft and easy to rattle. Bait a post and he will come.

Stands to reason that if Garmin have squads at 3 races and it's the end of the season with a number of riders already calling it a day, someone is going to get short changed.
JV can't do JC's loaves and fishes act.
Folks here asked why Garmin have only 5 riders at Emilia and like it or not, the HST is the the reason.
How many other PT teams are riding in Victoria?

In any case, I'm happy to see them all there, since it should mean a few CQ points. They certainly wouldn't get many at Emilia, Piedmonte and Lombardy.

 

[auscyclefan94]

My "stupidity" never fails to upset you. Never knew Aussies were so soft and easy to rattle. Bait a post and he will come.

Stands to reason that if Garmin have squads at 3 races and it's the end of the season with a number of riders already calling it a day, someone is going to get short changed.
JV can't do JC's loaves and fishes act.
Folks here asked why Garmin have only 5 riders at Emilia and like it or not, the HST is the the reason.
How many other PT teams are riding in Victoria?

In any case, I'm happy to see them all there, since it should mean a few CQ points. They certainly wouldn't get many at Emilia, Piedmonte and Lombardy.

Yes, it is easy to now say your post is a bait post after quite a few others picked your post up on its inaccuracies. Nice get out there, MV.

4 PT teams plus Skil Shimano are racing in Victoria.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

ticker
http://www.gsemilia.it/
5 men in a break... "Cinque uomini al comando: Stefan Denifl (Leopard Trek), Sergio Laganà (De Rosa Ceramica Flaminia), Davide Ricci Bitti (Farnese Vini Neri Sottoli), Luca Solari (Androni Giocattoli), Aleksander Zdanov (D'Angelo & Antenucci Nippo). Il loro vantaggio sul gruppo è di 20"" ..at 20 km.

now its 37 kilks ..lead is 7:50

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

There can only be one who wins this.. and that one is