Giro d'Italia 2015 Stage 7: Grosseto – Fiuggi 264 kms

[Eshnar]

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When people don't have the common sense necessary to understand what the topic of a thread is, what else can I do.

They're talking about whether it's OK to attack Contador on Eurosport. I guess they don't find it off-topic. It is a 265 kilometer long stage.

true. And it is ok, for a lot of reasons. But we don't need to discuss for 100 posts about the tour 2010 specifically.

 

[PremierAndrew]

I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

 

[Netserk]

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Commentators talk about all random stuff during boring stages like this. Is it really that wrong? Let's try and not abusive our mod power.

You don't wanna pull out a netserk.

Could you elaborate what that is?

 

[Pricey_sky]

Nice touch from the public with all the 108 numbers.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

 

[The Hitch]

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Can I get the post back by pm which is standard procedure on any forum for when a post gets deleted because it could be in a different thread?

Nope, deleted posts are lost in the new forum format, sadly.

EDIT: Hrotha... read my warnings...

Very easy to shoot without thinking, go around deleting things and enjoying the power trip when its other people that have to waste their time writing the very same post again and not you, isn't it?

When people don't have the common sense necessary to understand what the topic of a thread is, what else can I do.

It happens all the time in race threads. Especially on sprint stages. I can show you threads from the past where people spent pages discussing what their life situations were.
If a mod decides that is off topic fine, but you could have given me and others a few minutes to move the discussion elsewhere and save our posts rather than going nuclear so quick.

Just a thought. I am aware that the current cn forum moderators policy on "suggestions from posters" is loosely modeled on the North Korean one.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

Real life doesn't work on binaries. There is a lot of room between perfectly healthy and too hurt to ride.

 

[red_flanders]

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When people don't have the common sense necessary to understand what the topic of a thread is, what else can I do.

They're talking about whether it's OK to attack Contador on Eurosport. I guess they don't find it off-topic. It is a 265 kilometer long stage.

true. And it is ok, for a lot of reasons. But we don't need to discuss for 100 posts about the tour 2010 specifically.

There's nothing pressing to talk about on this stage. I think some leeway should be allowed.

 

[Eshnar]

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It happens all the time in race threads. Especially on sprint stages. I can show you threads from the past where people spent pages discussing what their life situations were.
If a mod decides that is off topic fine, but you could have given me and others a few minutes to move the discussion elsewhere and save our posts rather than going nuclear so quick.

Just a thought. I am aware that the current cn forum moderators policy on "suggestions from posters" is loosely modeled on the North Korean one.

Hitch, try to keep a little perspective on the situation. I deleted two posts. One was yours. I think you should be able to move on with your life. Perhaps you'll manage to create a new thread about it, instead of wasting time complaining about the time you wasted.

 

[Taxus4a]

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I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

He has done that since he started cycling.

 

[CyclingEnthusiast]

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I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

It's hardly a big deal when you can rest the next day and even then it's still a pretty big deal for a normal person.. I think you're forgetting Contador has to ride 264kms today, brushing it off as no big deal when you don't really know the circumstances is a bit harsh

It's not really Contador hyping it up either, it's the media, Contador just matter of factly explain that he dislocated his collarbone, twice

 

[Eshnar]

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I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

It's hardly a big deal when you can rest the next day and even then it's still a pretty big deal for a normal person.. I think you're forgetting Contador has to ride 264kms today, brushing it off as no big deal when you don't really know the circumstances is a bit harsh

It's not really Contador hyping it up either, it's the media, Contador just matter of factly explain that he dislocated his collarbone, twice

his shoulder, not his collarbone...

 

[CatsNK]

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Why does the BeIN sports guy keep saying "as we near the finish" and "as we approach the finish" "as stage 7 winds down" when the coverage is coming on and off? There's hours to go. What speed does he think the riders go at?

I think BeIN watches this forum. The commentator just changed what he says to acknowledge the 77K to go.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Nice touch from the public with all the 108 numbers.

Yeah.

I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

Me too.

 

[Pricey_sky]

I have a feeling Alberto will be ok for today, tomorrow on the other hand will be a big test. No way will Astana and Sky give him and easy time on a MTF.

 

[CyclingEnthusiast]

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I can't help but feel Contador is just playing his injury up to make it seem more remarkable when he wins, and so his fanboys have further excuses if he doesn't. The last thing you want is to show that you're weak, and he did exactly that on the podium yesterday. That would mean he was either genuinely injured to a point where he'd be unable to continue, or just playing it up, and he's certainly fine to continue...

Yes a dislocated shoulder can be bad, but in most cases, it's hardly a big deal. Hurts like hell but it doesn't prevent you from doing anything after about 12 hours usually, and for sure it would have affected Bertie but to nowhere near the extent that one would believe reading these forums

It's hardly a big deal when you can rest the next day and even then it's still a pretty big deal for a normal person.. I think you're forgetting Contador has to ride 264kms today, brushing it off as no big deal when you don't really know the circumstances is a bit harsh

It's not really Contador hyping it up either, it's the media, Contador just matter of factly explain that he dislocated his collarbone, twice

his shoulder, not his collarbone...

Apologies, shoulder, my bad

 

[Beech Mtn]

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I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

I wish they would remember him with his name and stop using the number, which should not have been retired. Others have died in races and not had numbers retired. When Pozzovivo had his scary crash the other day, he was wearing the number 1. If, god forbid, the worst had happened, what would RCS have done with that number?

Of course Weylandt should be remembered by the race, but the number was not the way to do it, IMO.

 

[Beech Mtn]

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I have a feeling Alberto will be ok for today, tomorrow on the other hand will be a big test. No way will Astana and Sky give him and easy time on a MTF.

They shouldn't refrain from racing tomorrow. Taking today easy was plenty of show of good sportsmanship, etc. Tomorrow it should be back on.

 

[hrotha]

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I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

I wish they would remember him with his name and stop using the number, which should not have been retired. Others have died in races and not had numbers retired. When Pozzovivo had his scary crash the other day, he was wearing the number 1. If, god forbid, the worst had happened, what would RCS have done with that number?

Of course Weylandt should be remembered by the race, but the number was not the way to do it, IMO.

The number was used more or less spontaneously by the Italian public from the beginning. It probably wouldn't have happened with #1, and I don't think it happened with other riders who died in races.

 

[The Hitch]

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It happens all the time in race threads. Especially on sprint stages. I can show you threads from the past where people spent pages discussing what their life situations were.
If a mod decides that is off topic fine, but you could have given me and others a few minutes to move the discussion elsewhere and save our posts rather than going nuclear so quick.

Just a thought. I am aware that the current cn forum moderators policy on "suggestions from posters" is loosely modeled on the North Korean one.

Hitch, try to keep a little perspective on the situation. I deleted two posts. One was yours. I think you should be able to move on with your life. Perhaps you'll manage to create a new thread about it, instead of wasting time complaining about the time you wasted.

My post is gone, unfortunately and nothing will bring it back. I'm at peace with that. My posts now come not as complaints, but as friendly advice to you, to sometimes be more cooperative with posters and not always treat them like an enemy that must be destroyed, so that such situations can be avoided and the forum can be a better place in the future

As to whether I am wasting my time, well that will be up to you.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I have a feeling Alberto will be ok for today, tomorrow on the other hand will be a big test. No way will Astana and Sky give him and easy time on a MTF.

Yeah tomorrow will be tricky, we can only hope for the best. It is a good sign that he can ride out of the saddle, after all the engine & legs should still be okay

 

[The Hitch]

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I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

I wish they would remember him with his name and stop using the number, which should not have been retired. Others have died in races and not had numbers retired. When Pozzovivo had his scary crash the other day, he was wearing the number 1. If, god forbid, the worst had happened, what would RCS have done with that number?

Of course Weylandt should be remembered by the race, but the number was not the way to do it, IMO.

The number was used more or less spontaneously by the Italian public from the beginning. It probably wouldn't have happened with #1, and I don't think it happened with other riders who died in races.

hrotha my friend. I have bumped the chaingate thread, so you can now post the response you made to me that was deleted, in there.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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i think sky adopting the "majka" tactic. Sucks for 2 weeks and ended up to be one the best rider on week 3. Astana and TS have been burning matches so far..

this exactly.

 

[Beech Mtn]

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I always get a lump in my throat when I see those #108 signs.

I wish they would remember him with his name and stop using the number, which should not have been retired. Others have died in races and not had numbers retired. When Pozzovivo had his scary crash the other day, he was wearing the number 1. If, god forbid, the worst had happened, what would RCS have done with that number?

Of course Weylandt should be remembered by the race, but the number was not the way to do it, IMO.

The number was used more or less spontaneously by the Italian public from the beginning. It probably wouldn't have happened with #1, and I don't think it happened with other riders who died in races.

Yeah, I know. I just wish RCS had tried to find something else iconic to make the official rememberance, since retiring numbers is impractical, and now after several years of this, it would be really awkward to bring it back years later.

 

[Beech Mtn]

3-man Etixx pee break