Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 15: Tolmezzo – Sappada 176 km

[Arredondo]

I don't understand all the fuzz really. I mean, the final was OK. But apart from that, i think the stage was rather boring.

Yates is just far superior to his rivals. Pozzo and Pinot are good climbers, but not good enough to really challenge for GT victory. Lopez is improving, but rather disappointing atm. And Dumoulin only has one race approach; strike in the ITT's, and ride the mountain stages as a time trialist.

You can't win with such an approach when you're not 100%.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Apart from Pinot I think the guys in the 2nd group really rode like losers. Dumo not so much intent but he also needs to ride with his emotions in check, I thought he was his own worse enemy in a lot of ways today.

What did Pinot do differently than the other riders?

...he worked . Only he and Dumoulin took turns. Geez, Pinot even led the chase in the descent...he did his part. Pozzo when Dumo was dropped, then went back in the wheels, the other two didn't do squat,

Pozzovivo did at least as much work as Pinot. And Pozzovivo took turns when Dumoulin was dropped as well.

 

[Kwibus]

Notice something? From the moment Dumoulin got dropped and had to ride on his own onwards he gained ten seconds on Yates. Today he didn't ride like someone who wants to win the giro more than anything else

Why wasn't the DS shouting in Dumoulin's ear: 'ride, ride, ride!'.
Those final 10 km suited him *way more* than Yates. Ride, and the others wil ride along because they can distance Froome and perhaps win the stage still.

I dont think Dumoulin felt good really, else he wouldve done exactly that.

 

[classicomano]

No way Tom will get pink on tuesday now. Yates will probably even win that stage.

 

[hfer07]

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More impressive than Froome Zoncolan, I must say.

Indeed

After yesterday's monumental effort trying to catch Froome, I thought he was going to play it cool today.......

wow....

 

[Eyeballs Out]

GC contenders virtually never ride together. We've seen it before so many times

 

[jaylew]

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That tom made it back is indicative of the absolute jokers in that group

Carapaz especially is the biggest clown i've ever seen.

Why? Richie is has nothing to ride for. At best he'll finish 6th probably. Anything he'd gain today, he'd lose Tuesday *2.

I think Carapaz just really wants the white jersey.

 

[RedheadDane]

Nice finale.

Yates knows that the offence is the best defence.
I was wondering yesterday if Froome might have burned all his matches.
Kinda feel a bit sorry for Aru: "Oh, hi! You've just seen all your hopes for a top result completely disappear. You won't mind if we continue filming you, right?"

 

[Kwibus]

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I don't understand all the fuzz really. I mean, the final was OK. But apart from that, i think the stage was rather boring.

Yates is just far superior to his rivals. Pozzo and Pinot are good climbers, but not good enough to really challenge for GT victory. Lopez is improving, but rather disappointing atm. And Dumoulin only has one race approach; strike in the ITT's, and ride the mountain stages as a time trialist.

You can't win with such an approach when you're not 100%.

He's fine. Yates is just nuts.

 

[red_flanders]

Pinot correctly pointing out the lack of work by Carapaz and Lopez as key to that group not catching Yates.

 

[jmdirt]

SP Yates in "ON"...everything is coming/has come together perfectly for his Giro. As noted above though, there is still another week of racing and many things can happen. How much time can Dumo take in the TT? Can Yates hold it together for another week?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Great backdrop to drop everybody like a stone

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Notice something? From the moment Dumoulin got dropped and had to ride on his own onwards he gained ten seconds on Yates. Today he didn't ride like someone who wants to win the giro more than anything else

Why wasn't the DS shouting in Dumoulin's ear: 'ride, ride, ride!'.
Those final 10 km suited him *way more* than Yates. Ride, and the others wil ride along because they can distance Froome and perhaps win the stage still.

I dont think Dumoulin felt good really, else he wouldve done exactly that.

No way did he work as much Pinot. He did a few half arse pulls.

But it pretty much shows his intent, happy to fight for podium and not the win, really the only 3 riders in the race today who genuinely would compromise Thier position for the win are dumo, Froome and Yates.

 

[movingtarget]

Best Giro for years. Froome went too deep yesterday. Has Aru finished yet ?

 

[DFA123]

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That tom made it back is indicative of the absolute jokers in that group

Carapaz especially is the biggest clown i've ever seen.

I'd say he's the one least to blame. He's got absolutely nothing to lose in this race; just riding for experience. He can do what he wants, and good for him not to bullied into working. The others are the ones expected to get results here and should be taking on the responsibility.

still he should not ride like a scum, he should have character, it will be bad mark to him to future, nobody will ever like him and help him

Of course they will; you'd have to be crazy to put most of the blame on Carapaz for the gap that Yates got today. He has different objectives to everyone else in that group.

 

[Arredondo]

Re: Re:

I don't understand all the fuzz really. I mean, the final was OK. But apart from that, i think the stage was rather boring.

Yates is just far superior to his rivals. Pozzo and Pinot are good climbers, but not good enough to really challenge for GT victory. Lopez is improving, but rather disappointing atm. And Dumoulin only has one race approach; strike in the ITT's, and ride the mountain stages as a time trialist.

You can't win with such an approach when you're not 100%.

He's fine. Yates is just nuts.

Yates is nuts, but Dumoulin is definitely not Oropa shape atm

 

[Bardamu]

Yates continues to be the strongest rider in this Giro, but what was Dumoulin thinking letting Pinot lead the descent?

 

[Red Rick]

Notice something? From the moment Dumoulin got dropped and had to ride on his own onwards he gained ten seconds on Yates. Today he didn't ride like someone who wants to win the giro more than anything else

He seemed very annoyed, not like I've seen him all Giro.

Still very strong of him to get back after he got dropped.

Once everyone is wrecked, Dumoulin is the strongest apart from the one that did the wrecking

 

[EroicaStradeBianche]

Pozzovino, Carapaz, Miquel Angel lost a good chance to consolidate their top 10

 

[Der Effe]

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Apart from Pinot I think the guys in the 2nd group really rode like losers. Dumo not so much intent but he also needs to ride with his emotions in check, I thought he was his own worse enemy in a lot of ways today.

What did Pinot do differently than the other riders?

...he worked . Only he and Dumoulin took turns. Geez, Pinot even led the chase in the descent...he did his part. Pozzo when Dumo was dropped, then went back in the wheels, the other two didn't do squat,

Pozzovivo did at least as much work as Pinot. And Pozzovivo took turns when Dumoulin was dropped as well.

LOL, Pozzo did f*ck all apart from when Dumoulin was dropped.

 

[Gigs_98]

The thing is, on the top I think the group was less than 20 seconds behind Yates and what was left at that point was a desgdnt, a flat section, a shallow climb and another flat section. Even if only Dumoulin, Pozzo and Pinot had worked together well they definitely should have caught Yates. Instead they lost twenty more seconds.

 

[DFA123]

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Pinot correctly pointing out the lack of work by Carapaz and Lopez as key to that group not catching Yates.

If you're Dumoulin or Pinot you shouldn't be giving a *** about what Carapaz and Lopez are doing. They are effectively 5+ minutes behind, given the TT to come. If they sit on and jump off into the distance with 2km to go, who cares? Froome and Dumoulin should take responsibility themselves and race against Froome and Yates.

 

[DenisMenchov]

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That tom made it back is indicative of the absolute jokers in that group

Carapaz especially is the biggest clown i've ever seen.

I honestly think him and Lopez are in the battle of their own for the white jersey. At one point I thought Pozzo was going to punch him after the stage.

 

[ice&fire]

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Pinot correctly pointing out the lack of work by Carapaz and Lopez as key to that group not catching Yates.

In a group of five two are not working and the other three can't catch the one. That's a good summary.

 

[Serpentin]

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Yates will podium the TT

Starting to look likely

After coming 7th in the first TT, would it be that surprising?

He was 29 th and 32nd in the TT`s last year. So very surprising for me.