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Leinster said:Kelly lost 13? minutes in the 83 Tour.TheSpud said:Aristarchus said:So has anyone seen Yates?
Not even finished by the time Froome took the podium. Is this the greatest single blow up / loss in a day by the GC leader?
Other than sprinters on the first day in the mountains I can’t think of another blowup that comes close.
TheSpud said:Leinster said:Kelly lost 13? minutes in the 83 Tour.TheSpud said:Aristarchus said:So has anyone seen Yates?
Not even finished by the time Froome took the podium. Is this the greatest single blow up / loss in a day by the GC leader?
Other than sprinters on the first day in the mountains I can’t think of another blowup that comes close.
Kelly wouldnt have been a GC contender overall though would he - he was a green jersey man, so I'm assuming that loss was early on in the race.
Yates just come in 38:50 down ...
webvan said:TheSpud said:Aristarchus said:So has anyone seen Yates?
Not even finished by the time Froome took the podium. Is this the greatest single blow up / loss in a day by the GC leader?
Basso lost 42' in 2005
TMP402 said:webvan said:TheSpud said:Aristarchus said:So has anyone seen Yates?
Not even finished by the time Froome took the podium. Is this the greatest single blow up / loss in a day by the GC leader?
Basso lost 42' in 2005
But he was ill, no? Yates has nothing obviously wrong.
It's gonna be hard for him to turn this one around.DenisMenchov said:Yates 38 minutes down
Some at least big bus at 43'45''.Screecher said:Have the sprinters finished yet?
Screecher said:Have the sprinters finished yet?
Yes, surprisingly both Viviani and Bennett were well inside the time cut at 43:45.Screecher said:Have the sprinters finished yet?
Really that surprising? I assume that on the valley parts where Froome annihilated Dumo & the rest the bus was taking minutes into Froome.shalgo said:Yes, surprisingly both Viviani and Bennett were well inside the time cut at 43:45.Screecher said:Have the sprinters finished yet?
Not really. We've seen several guys appear on a GT podium once never to sniff it again. I just didn't think he was going to be a perennial GT contender but I was wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:The fact you thought it was a fluke when he beat Q and Nibs while taking a **** says a lot... :lol:jaylew said:Mad props to Dumoulin. I thought his Giro win was a bit of a fluke but clearly it wasn't. Terrific performance. I am now a fan.
Not really. We've seen several guys on a GT podium never to sniff it again. I just didn't see him as a perennial GT contender but I was wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:The fact you thought it was a fluke when he beat Q and Nibs while taking a **** says a lot... :lol:jaylew said:Mad props to Dumoulin. I thought his Giro win was a bit of a fluke but clearly it wasn't. Terrific performance. I am now a fan.
LaFlorecita said:Formolino, Oomen and Tibo moved up on GC. Trying to remain positive!
SorryRed Rick said:LaFlorecita said:Formolino, Oomen and Tibo moved up on GC. Trying to remain positive!
Bardamu said:Wow, what a race. This is why we love GT's and the Giro in particular. One-day racing doesn't have the drama and heroism as days like this. I do wonder what would have happened if Dumoulin had not waited for Pinot(after his mechanical) at the top. Carapaz and Lopez would have co-operated in that case I guess. Although I understand Lopez and Carapaz, I believe a stage win would have been possible for them if they all would have worked together.
And, Reichenbach is the worst descender of the peloton.
Great post. I fully agree that Froome's ride was one for the ages - he took the initiative, gambled, calculated his effort superbly, and it paid off.VO2 Max said:Bardamu said:Wow, what a race. This is why we love GT's and the Giro in particular. One-day racing doesn't have the drama and heroism as days like this. I do wonder what would have happened if Dumoulin had not waited for Pinot(after his mechanical) at the top. Carapaz and Lopez would have co-operated in that case I guess. Although I understand Lopez and Carapaz, I believe a stage win would have been possible for them if they all would have worked together.
And, Reichenbach is the worst descender of the peloton.
Well no, apart from LBL practically every monument every year has as much drama and heroism as that.
But these questions are interesting - Dumoulin looked too relaxed at the top of Finestre, like "we'll just wait for a few guys to come back and then we can catch him no stress" - he really should have anticipated the games to come from the podium-chasers, and at some point in the descent to the Chisone valley he has to cut his losses and stop waiting for Reichenbach (who never owed him anything anyway). At the Cima Coppi the gap was 38s, by the valley it was the best part of 2 minutes; that's a complete game changer in pursuit terms, he goes from being the guy that's just up there in front of those moto's to being more than a km ahead and somewhere under that helicopter you can just about see. Carapaz/Lopez/Pino go from guys that might assist because the stage win is available to guys only interesting in racing against each other. Froome was otherworldly today but these rare rides to some extent do require the guys behind to make mistakes - in 2006 the Landis ride was only possible because nobody took him seriously until too late.