Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 19: Venaria Reale – Jafferau 184km

[Robert5091]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44372328

How Chris Froome won Giro d'Italia thanks to 'spectacular' stage 19 victory

SDB & Sky explain the plan for stage 19

Podcast at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06985kr

 

[rick james]

Happy anniversary to the greatest GT stage and show ever

 

[jsem94]

I still think about this stage at least once a month. Still can't believe it. Heartbreak for Dumoulin.

 

[SafeBet]

Google sent me a reminder of the pictures I took on Finestre last year. Still give me goosebumps.

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

I still think about this stage at least once a month. Still can't believe it. Heartbreak for Dumoulin.

I think about it occasionally too. Then I quickly think about happier memories, like losing the WC final in 2010

 

[silvergrenade]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 stage 19: Venaria Reale – Jafferau 18

Happy anniversary to the greatest GT stage and show ever

Thanks for reminding Rick.
What an amazing stage this was!
Hoping for a repeat in the TdF this year, somewhere, with Froome in yellow.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Re: Re:

I still think about this stage at least once a month. Still can't believe it. Heartbreak for Dumoulin.

I think about it occasionally too. Then I quickly think about happier memories, like losing the WC final in 2010

Red Rick was probably throwing these around during this cinematic masterpiece

 

[Escarabajo]

They are showing this stage on Flobikes again. I watched it this morning. One of the best stages I have ever seen. Simply spectacular.
Just cannot help to see the big tactic errors that Dumo made that day. That was really bad. That was Cadel Evan's like. What was he thinking.

 

[RedheadDane]

Hang on... "heartbreak for Dumoulin"? What about "heartbreak for S. Yates"? Wasn't he the one who went from "believing he could have won the whole damn thing" to "completely exploding"?

 

[Cannavaro]

They are showing this stage on Flobikes again. I watched it this morning. One of the best stages I have ever seen. Simply spectacular.
Just cannot help to see the big tactic errors that Dumo made that day. That was really bad. That was Cadel Evan's like. What was he thinking.

He was thinking that either he or Froome cannot produce 5.9 W/kg for two and a half hours. We still do not know if he can produce this number for this time period and we probably never will.

 

[Escarabajo]

He was thinking that either he or Froome cannot produce 5.9 W/kg for two and a half hours. We still do not know if he can produce this number for this time period and we probably never will.

I get it that Froome is an alien on some days. But Froome took most of the time is the descents and false flats. Dumo's descending and ride on the flat was horrible just because he was looking around for help all the time. Including twice that they waited for Grandma to drag them to Froome.

 

[42x16ss]

2 years on and I still think George Bennett summed it up best.

 

[42x16ss]

Happy anniversary to the greatest GT stage and show ever

 

[Blanco]

I get it that Froome is an alien on some days. But Froome took most of the time is the descents and false flats. Dumo's descending and ride on the flat was horrible just because he was looking around for help all the time. Including twice that they waited for Grandma to drag them to Froome.

On descents he gain nothing, or very little. On false flats on the other hand, he gained most of the time, like he had some invisible help there

 

[rick james]

Wow, a time machine to get Landis back to this stage

 

[Gigs_98]

2 years later and I still can't believe it.
It reminds me on when an already unrealistic movie gets a sequel, that basically does the same thing but even more over the top and unrealistic. It's like the cycling gods watched the 2016 giro and thought, you know what, we need that sort of sequel.

 

[Red Rick]

If I never saw this thread agian it would be too soon

 

[Escarabajo]

On descents he gain nothing, or very little. On false flats on the other hand, he gained most of the time, like he had some invisible help there

Blanco, correct me if I am wrong but in Finestre descent he gained a minute.

 

[rick james]

If I never saw this thread agian it would be too soon

True cycling fan talk

 

[Red Rick]

True cycling fan talk

Yeah, no true fan is ever disappointed by the outcome of a result.

That's why they're true fans

 

[Cannavaro]

Blanco, correct me if I am wrong but in Finestre descent he gained a minute.

Ammattipyöräily gives time gaps for every kilometer: link

ascent Finestre: 0:42
descent Finestre: 0:47
false flat to Sestriere: 0:23
ascent Sestriere: 0:53
descent Sestriere: 0:11
false flat to Jafferau: 0:28
ascent Jafferau: -0:01

time gain
climbs: 1:34 => 46%
descents: 0:58 => 29%
false flat: 0:51 => 25%

 

[Escarabajo]

Ammattipyöräily gives time gaps for every kilometer: link

ascent Finestre: 0:42
descent Finestre: 0:47
false flat to Sestriere: 0:23
ascent Sestriere: 0:53
descent Sestriere: 0:11
false flat to Jafferau: 0:28
ascent Jafferau: -0:01

time gain
climbs: 1:34 => 46%
descents: 0:58 => 29%
false flat: 0:51 => 25%

Thanks Cannavaro.
I saw the difference at the top of the Finestre as :38 seconds. So that would put around :52 seconds lost in the descent. That plus the false flat after the descent where he lost 0:23 seconds. That is 1:15 total loss. I could never understand how you work so hard in the Finestre climb to then lose more than double in the descent. What's the point. I am sure he regrets some of that.
Oh well we only have the memories.

 

[42x16ss]

True cycling fan talk

Bit rich coming from someone who only posts for these reasons:

1. Support the UK team and its riders
2. Hang sh!t on Valverde and Contador
3. Bag out the French (in general, not individual riders)
4. Support UK riders who don't ride for Ineos

 

[Brumdog66]

I understand losing that much time on the descent is poor from Dumoulin but I wonder what the difference would be between them if peak Froome and peak Dumoulin rode a 90km TT over the same course. I have absolutely no idea because it’s never been done but I’d expect Froome to take it by a significant margin.

 

[rick james]

Bit rich coming from someone who only posts for these reasons:

1. Support the UK team and its riders
2. Hang sh!t on Valverde and Contador
3. Bag out the French (in general, not individual riders)
4. Support UK riders who don't ride for Ineos

So British good, Everyone else bad?


seems about right