Giro d'Italia 2020, stage 19: Morbegno › Asti (258k)

[zlev11]

i'll be very happy when Adam Hansen retires. it's always the anglophone riders and writers trying to change this sport. they need to learn that this is not their sport, it belongs to Europe, the Italians and Belgians and French. they're very welcome to participate and make a living but they need to f*ck off trying to change traditions. Lance is on his dumb podcast trying to get grand tours changed to two weeks. Adam Hansen doesn't want to ride 260k, a bunch of British and American journalists write articles about wanting to change the whole calendar around every other week. this sport is meant to be a little bit inhumane, grand tours are absolutely supposed to be inhumane. that's what makes it special. otherwise i could just go down and watch the local group ride do their 50 miles every saturday and sprint for stop signs.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

The villages not passed through have missed out yes.
And the Mayor of Morbegno might not have cut the tape.
But much of population in N.Italy is meant to be keeping indoors.
Plus it's not good watching weather.
The riders have reduced the risk of contact with that population
and they have given their immune systems a break - in this
underlying climate of Covid.
Plus maybe they'll not resort to less chemicals...

Not much has been missed.

Now a sprint finish - yawn.

 

[staubsauger]

Y'all are well aware that 13 degrees and rain certainly wouldn't be a sufficient reason to justify bad weather cancelation for building labor!?

 

[FjPavels]

13 degrees and rain ? sounds like nice weather for this time of year. For me that is nice weather for doing a long run lol

 

[RedheadDane]

Is the intermediate coming up soon? It's down to 35 seconds.

 

[46&twoWheels]

meanwhile, not far from the "Giro d'Italia": Campania region's president De Luca announces lockdown, first region in Italy. Another potential weapon/excuse for De Gendt and company.........

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Is the intermediate coming up soon? It's down to 35 seconds.

The int sprint was quite soon after the start (3 man group took it)

Bora do seem to have a plan though (or maybe just trying to make a point after the morning debacle). FDJ have no reason not to ride as far as I can see except that Bora are doing it for them

 

[hrotha]

The villages not passed through have missed out yes.
And the Mayor of Morbegno might not have cut the tape.
But much of population in N.Italy is meant to be keeping indoors.
Plus it's not good watching weather.
The riders have reduced the risk of contact with that population
and they have given their immune systems a break - in this
underlying climate of Covid.
Plus maybe they'll not resort to less chemicals...

Not much has been missed.

Now a sprint finish - yawn.

If passing through those villages was not safe, then the Giro must be cancelled right now.

 

[yaco]

This is IMO the underlying issue here - the pernicious idea that long stages are pointless. That the only thing that matters is what people see in the last hour of the race on TV. That endurance isn't a thing.

Well if you think endurance is so important you better give a clip to the organisers - The 3 ITT's could have been condensed into two stages completing the same amount of kilometres and then you could have another 200 km stage.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

i'll be very happy when Adam Hansen retires. it's always the anglophone riders and writers trying to change this sport. they need to learn that this is not their sport, it belongs to Europe, the Italians and Belgians and French. they're very welcome to participate and make a living but they need to f*ck off trying to change traditions. Lance is on his dumb podcast trying to get grand tours changed to two weeks. Adam Hansen doesn't want to ride 260k, a bunch of British and American journalists write articles about wanting to change the whole calendar around every other week. this sport is meant to be a little bit inhumane, grand tours are absolutely supposed to be inhumane. that's what makes it special. otherwise i could just go down and watch the local group ride do their 50 miles every saturday and sprint for stop signs.

Lol come on man, the biggest “cry babies” about this kind of thing in recent years have been Tony Martin and Fabian Cancellara, neither of them obvious Anglo-Saxons and both of them like Hansen with a pretty substantial ability to endure a bit of suffering. As for the sport “belonging” to the traditional cycling powers, maybe those countries riders should try winning a Grand Tour more than very occasionally if they are to be given ownership of the sport’s culture in perpetuity.

 

[zlev11]

Lol come on man, the biggest “cry babies” about this kind of thing in recent years have been Tony Martin and Fabian Cancellara, neither of them obvious Anglo-Saxons and both of them like Hansen with a pretty substantial ability to endure a bit of suffering. As for the sport “belonging” to the traditional cycling powers, maybe those countries riders should try winning a Grand Tour more than very occasionally if they are to be given ownership of the sport’s culture in perpetuity.

I dont recall Tony Martin or Fabian Cancellara trying to get a stage shortened just because they didn't want to ride it. They attempted to neutralize a race in what they thought were dangerous road conditions, to benefit their own team leaders. While I don't agree with that either, it's a lot different than getting a whole stage shortened because they didn't feel like doing it.

 

[hrotha]

Well if you think endurance is so important you better give a clip to the organisers - The 3 ITT's could have been condensed into two stages completing the same amount of kilometres and then you could have another 200 km stage.

I don't see your point. Yes, I think having 2 longer ITTs is generally better than having 3 shorter ones. No, I don't think modern organizers adequately recognize the importance of endurance, although the Giro organizers are not as bad as others in that regard. I'm not sure why any of this is relevant here?

 

[Rollthedice]

Can't watch right now. What is the status of the bus ride?

 

[savornin]

So funny. Yesterday Kelderman started out the hunter and Almeida the hunted.
Today and tomorrow, Kelderman will be the prey himself, being chased by the Ineos wolf pack.

 

[Jagartrott]

Bora starting to lose the chase. I don't really understand their tactics. If anything, they should've tried to get Sagan in the break.

 

[Breezy1985]

Y'all are well aware that 13 degrees and rain certainly wouldn't be a sufficient reason to justify bad weather cancelation for building labor!?

In the UK it's 16oC for offices and 13oC for manual labour. Of course like most UK labour rules this is a code of practice not a law

 

[Breezy1985]

So funny. Yesterday Kelderman started out the hunter and Almeida the hunted.
Today and tomorrow, Kelderman will be the prey himself, being chased by the Ineos wolf pack.

Please do not use a cherished nick name like wolf pack to describe Ineos. Wolves are clever and also alive where as Ineos are mindless robots

 

[RedheadDane]

Gap ballooned out to over a minute.

 

[Billie]

Bora starting to lose the chase. I don't really understand their tactics. If anything, they should've tried to get Sagan in the break.

they had someone in the break but he got dropped because of a mechanical.

 

[bassano]

Lol come on man, the biggest “cry babies” about this kind of thing in recent years have been Tony Martin and Fabian Cancellara, neither of them obvious Anglo-Saxons and both of them like Hansen with a pretty substantial ability to endure a bit of suffering. As for the sport “belonging” to the traditional cycling powers, maybe those countries riders should try winning a Grand Tour more than very occasionally if they are to be given ownership of the sport’s culture in perpetuity.

But point of zlev11 Is absolutelly right. Cycling Is going each year worse way. Cyclist are crying each year for lesser reasons. Weather, lenght, dangerous downhills etc. In this way we Will end up with ridiculous 75km stages which Is lenhgt I usually raced when I was 15. Not really quality Worth profesional cycling.

 

[EliseeReclus]

In the UK it's 16oC for offices and 13oC for manual labour. Of course like most UK labour rules this is a code of practice not a law

This is for indoors only, working outdoors there are no set limits - otherwise all outdoor work would have to be cancelled here

 

[Red Rick]

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[Zinoviev Letter]

I dont recall Tony Martin or Fabian Cancellara trying to get a stage shortened just because they didn't want to ride it. They attempted to neutralize a race in what they thought were dangerous road conditions, to benefit their own team leaders. While I don't agree with that either, it's a lot different than getting a whole stage shortened because they didn't feel like doing it.

Neutralising races every time there’s a risk of someone falling off isn’t an age old GT tradition either, you know. Whining about “AngloSaxons” and confusing their presence with the inexorably growing effects of money, globalisation, professionalisation does seem to be an indestructible tradition though. I’m sorry to break this to you but highly paid Italian or Spanish pro athletes today are just as far removed culturally from the cigarette smoking silent ironman heroes of the 1950s, sullenly grateful to have escaped life as a miner or small peasant, as any Australian.

 

[saunaking]

I genuinely thought Adam Hansen had retired a long time ago.
I don't recall ever seeing him in a race in the past 3 years.

Friggin' Triathletes

 

[hrotha]

Please do not use a cherished nick name like wolf pack to describe Ineos. Wolves are clever and also alive where as Ineos are mindless robots

What do you mean, a cherished nickname? "Wolf pack" is cringe af.