Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2022 route rumors

[Mayomaniac]

I would prefer something easy like a Nevegal stage as the final mountain stage instead of the Fedaia stage, so people would have to attack on the Castelmonte stage.
The Kolovrat climb is a beast:

 

[Mayomaniac]

How many muritos do we have on the Jesi stage? I feel like it's one of those stages that could be a lot harder than the profile suggests.
Overall nice medium mountain stages, now we really need a long final Verona ITT, helicopter Moser style.

 

[OlavEH]

Well, I think this is the best I've seen of medium mountain stages in the Giro for quite some time. Only thing missing is that a couple of them should have been even longer, say 220-230 km.

 

[Red Rick]

I would prefer something easy like a Nevegal stage as the final mountain stage instead of the Fedaia stage, so people would have to attack on the Castelmonte stage.
The Kolovrat climb is a beast:

Is that the side? I thought it was the other one.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Is that the side? I thought it was the other one.

Yes, it's this side.

 

[greyclouds]

Some very interesting hilly stages here

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The Jesi and to a lesser extent Castelmonte stages are a bit disappointing, the Torino stage makes up for it though. All in all, this is among the better sets of hilly and mid-mountain stages any recent GT has had.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I would prefer something easy like a Nevegal stage as the final mountain stage instead of the Fedaia stage, so people would have to attack on the Castelmonte stage.
The Kolovrat climb is a beast:

Or even better, just flip the order of Fedaia and Castelmonte.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Or even better, just flip the order of Fedaia and Castelmonte.

Yeah, that would be perfect!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

So the Grande Partenza is the usual crap - put the unwatchably dull stage on a weekend and the one with the puncheur finish on a weekday. Nice one, guys.

Hilly stages are good, although I'm not really all that in on the idea of circuit races mid-race (increases transfers elsewhere or limits what of the country can be seen, just feels more suited to a short stage race than a GT, though I quite like it as a stage 1 kind of option, like the original mooted 2013 start - though stage 8 of this Giro would have of course been even better in that role). The Torino stage circuit is at least pretty great from a design point of view, with the hardest climbs furthest from the line and a constant barrage of up and down.

But what's wrong with the mountains classification in the Jesi stage? Come on, RCS, this is the Giro! There's at least one too many categorised climbs in that one... Kolovrat is really nice to see too, that's a very serious ascent.

 

[Mayomaniac]

So the Grande Partenza is the usual crap - put the unwatchably dull stage on a weekend and the one with the puncheur finish on a weekday. Nice one, guys.

Hilly stages are good, although I'm not really all that in on the idea of circuit races mid-race (increases transfers elsewhere or limits what of the country can be seen, just feels more suited to a short stage race than a GT, though I quite like it as a stage 1 kind of option, like the original mooted 2013 start - though stage 8 of this Giro would have of course been even better in that role). The Torino stage circuit is at least pretty great from a design point of view, with the hardest climbs furthest from the line and a constant barrage of up and down.

But what's wrong with the mountains classification in the Jesi stage? Come on, RCS, this is the Giro! There's at least one too many categorised climbs in that one... Kolovrat is really nice to see too, that's a very serious ascent.

Don't worry, RCS will probably fix that one before the official roadbook comes out.

De Marchi and Jonathan Milan will kill themself to go in the breakaway on the Castelmonte stage (if they actually ride the Giro), the first intermediate sprint takes place in their hometown Buja.

 

[sir fly]

A finisseur might win in Napoli, the rest of hilly set to barodeurs and puncheurs.
It should take an effort to make a GC impact without any unexpected events.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

2022 Hilly Stages | Giro d'Italia 2022 (giroditalia.it)

Monte Fasce (aka Becco) in the stage to Genova, very good
Torino looks awesome
Castelmonte with some unnecessary flat in the end

Evenepoel territory for the most part. Interesting.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I still think they should have beefed up the Cuneo stage a bit by using another hill near the finish. It doesn't have to be the Colletto del Moro (of course I wouldn't mind), something like Frabosa Soprana would already be enough.
Also, it looks like we'l get many long transfers (did Vegni want to pay tribute to Zomegnan's final Giro in that regard?). Treviso is closer to Belluno than it is to Marano Lagunare, if the Friuli-Slovenia stage really happens before the rumoured Fedaia stage we have an almost 100km transfer followed by a 172km transfer before the Fedaia stage and a 200km transfer before the final ITT...

 

[Gigs_98]

The Torino and the Castelmonte stages are great in a vacuum but, and I don't know for how many years this has been a problem in the giro now, the most interesting medium mountain stages will once again be rendered useless by taking place right before a high mountain stage. I know you can't just switch around two stages, but just in theory the Castelmonte stage on stage 18, the flat stage to Treviso on stage 19 and the big finale in the dolomites on stage 20 would make so much more sense.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The Torino and the Castelmonte stages are great in a vacuum but, and I don't know for how many years this has been a problem in the giro now, the most interesting medium mountain stages will once again be rendered useless by taking place right before a high mountain stage. I know you can't just switch around two stages, but just in theory the Castelmonte stage on stage 18, the flat stage to Treviso on stage 19 and the big finale in the dolomites on stage 20 would make so much more sense.

The transfer between Treviso and Belluno is shorter than the one between Treviso and the start of the Castelmonte stage, I already pusted that they are overdoing the transfers. Maybe Vegni will throw us a curveball and stage 20 is actually the easier Nevegal granfondo stage.
Regarding the Torino stage I agree, but Cogne is also not a hard uphill finish, so it's actually gonna be a challenge to make the stage hard enough so that there is the terrain to attack before the final climb and not so hard that we won't get any action on the Torino stage.

 

[AlfaLum]

Stage 18 & 19 are awesome and placed perfectly in the Giro. So far the route is very exciting already. If the TT's and Mountain stages do not disappoint we could be in for a great Giro.

In the end it is still always the riders who determine how a stage is raced. And they have enough opportunities to make differences if they have the guts.

Even though one might get a feeling from reading cyclingnews forum that the route is actually the single most important thing in cycling.

 

[Sciatic]

Stage 18 & 19 are awesome and placed perfectly in the Giro. So far the route is very exciting already. If the TT's and Mountain stages do not disappoint we could be in for a great Giro.

In the end it is still always the riders who determine how a stage is raced. And they have enough opportunities to make differences if they have the guts.

Even though one might get a feeling from reading cyclingnews forum that the route is actually the single most important thing in cycling.

We’ll, the route may be the most important thing in road cycling right NOW, ‘cause there is so little cycling news to be had!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Stage 18 & 19 are awesome and placed perfectly in the Giro. So far the route is very exciting already. If the TT's and Mountain stages do not disappoint we could be in for a great Giro.

In the end it is still always the riders who determine how a stage is raced. And they have enough opportunities to make differences if they have the guts.

Even though one might get a feeling from reading cyclingnews forum that the route is actually the single most important thing in cycling.

Of course, but the organisers can't help how the riders feel on the day and, as we saw in the 2021 Grand Tours when organisers largely did as well as they could to bait echelons, sometimes the conditions don't play ball either. The riders can turn an expected transitional stage into an exciting one (2010 Giro stage 12, for example), and can turn a hotly-anticipated stage into a dull follow-the-leader (2020 Tour stage 15, for example). But while the organisers can't force the riders to race, they can use the route to incentivise them making the race, and that's what we have to judge it by at present. There's a reason some stages are more anticipated than others, and it's because they offer more prospects of exciting racing (and yes, different people's interpretation of what that means can vary).

Claude Monet might not have required the absolute highest quality paint and canvas money could buy to produce an artwork, but at the same time he couldn't have painted the masterpieces he produced in the garden at Giverny if all he had at his disposal was a chalkboard and some sharpies.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Profiles #1 #4 #5 #6 look promising. After seeing Kolovrat Pogi will change his mind and take part in the Giro.

 

[ice&fire]

Profiles #1 #4 #5 #6 look promising. After seeing Kolovrat Pogi will change his mind and take part in the Giro.

Yeah, he'll be at the roadside after having posted a strava ride that will make the Giro peloton look like amateurs

 

[Max Rockatansky]

How many muritos do we have on the Jesi stage? I feel like it's one of those stages that could be a lot harder than the profile suggests.

It's looking like there are no muritos at all -> https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/456737

So the Grande Partenza is the usual crap - put the unwatchably dull stage on a weekend and the one with the puncheur finish on a weekday. Nice one, guys.

More and more people are watching this via stream after the races or time-displaced. You can go on a ride yourself on saturday/sunday and then watch the race later.


I'm not sure, but I think there haven't been any really interesting stages into Genova. The famous Passo della Bocchetta never was used by the Giro. I only remember Piepoli winning on Santuario Nostra Signora della Guardia. Which is a part of Genova, but was used as a classical Vuelta ____/ stage.

In the end this can be promising, if there are proper mountain stages following these hilly stages. The mother of all transitional stages is this monument sneaked into a Grand Tour.

The crying would have been intense, because they soft pedaled most of the day. But the last 50k were ridden very hard. And then the next day Casagrande smashed everyone on San Pellegrino in Alpe on a short stage to Abetone. San Pellegrino in Alpe by the way hasn't been used since that year. Which is of course a crime against the cycling gods. It's a difficult climb, basically made to to attack and then bring it home to Abetone. Great combo.

Back then they really knew how to wear them out. It was followed by a 260k flat stage and a proper time trial before the first AND only rest day.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

They didn't have Adam Hansen to put on a show in those days, either...

 

[roundabout]

From memory Casagrande bombed the Pradaccio descent that day and the cooperation behind was not good on the last climb so it's not like he gained 1'40'' on the rest chasing flat out.

And Corinaldo-Prado was a dud, probably because of Abetone the next day

 

[Mayomaniac]

It's looking like there are no muritos at all -> https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/456737



More and more people are watching this via stream after the races or time-displaced. You can go on a ride yourself on saturday/sunday and then watch the race later.


I'm not sure, but I think there haven't been any really interesting stages into Genova. The famous Passo della Bocchetta never was used by the Giro. I only remember Piepoli winning on Santuario Nostra Signora della Guardia. Which is a part of Genova, but was used as a classical Vuelta ____/ stage.

In the end this can be promising, if there are proper mountain stages following these hilly stages. The mother of all transitional stages is this monument sneaked into a Grand Tour.

The crying would have been intense, because they soft pedaled most of the day. But the last 50k were ridden very hard. And then the next day Casagrande smashed everyone on San Pellegrino in Alpe on a short stage to Abetone. San Pellegrino in Alpe by the way hasn't been used since that year. Which is of course a crime against the cycling gods. It's a difficult climb, basically made to to attack and then bring it home to Abetone. Great combo.

Back then they really knew how to wear them out. It was followed by a 260k flat stage and a proper time trial before the first AND only rest day.

San Pellegrino in Alpe is prety much the Zoncolan from Sutrio with a descent and an easier climb afterwards and yes, they really need to bring that back.
If I was an eccentric billionaire I'd spend some money every few years to get a stage that is totally over the top (we really need to get Elon Musk hooked to the sport).