Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 10: Scandiano – Viareggio 196 km

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About the Vlasov situation: Doesn't something like this happen everytime the Giro has rainy first half and the stage after the rest day starts with some climbing?
I'm thinking about Chaves in 2018, Santambrogio on stage 16 of the 2013 Giro and so on.

Ofcourse it does, immune system just gets hit hard, and riders get sick. Covid, a regular flu, stomach issues, a sore throat, or just a cold, it doesn't matter. If riders get a fever, and it gets impossible to ride, they quit, otherwise they often try to recover a bit. People are acting like it's new that cyclists just keep going when they're a little bit sick and acting like it's the most dangerous thing ever. It isn't. Don't ride when you're super sick obviously, riding with a 39 degree fever like Zoccarato a few days ago is ridiculously stupid, but let's not act like everyone who keeps riding with a cold or sore throat is going to die of a heart attack. Half of the ex cyclists would've been dead by now.
 
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You think I understand what he was saying??? lmao

He waffeled a bit about Kamna, that's why I understood.

He was actually talking to Ackermann and said "well it's pretty cold today, isn't it? Hope you have fun, enjoy the stage"

Probably Kämna and some other German speakers were also close by ;)
 
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So Davide Bais closes a minute on Cort who had been unable to close 30 secs on Di Marchi / Gee and perhaps therefore it was Bais who dragged Cort across ?
 
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So Davide Bais closes a minute on Cort who had been unable to close 30 secs on Di Marchi / Gee and perhaps therefore it was Bais who dragged Cort across ?

Well, he has Contador and Basso as bosses, you would think he has learned to climb a little.
 
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Mads Pedersen once won WCC just because he was able to endure the weather more than other riders.
 
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You mean who has insane doctors?
Yeah. If someone has a symptomatic case of a potentially serious respiratory illness, associated to a currently unmeasured degree with heart complications, letting them race a Grand Tour is deeply unwise. They shouldn’t be riding with influenza either, although the risks are better understood. Athletes will volunteer to take all kinds of stupid risks with their health to compete, up to and including trying to ride with concussions. Doctors should protect them.

If there are in fact a load of symptomatic Covid cases out there and they are being allowed to ride (we don’t actually know this), we are potentially going to get a lot of information about how it effects performance, how many can‘t finish, etc. I’d rather that experiment wasn’t run, but it seems likely that it’s going to be. Assuming of course that the bulk of the sickness is actually Covid and not other random viruses etc.

I note that Bystrom, who was apparently trying to ride with Covid, has now dropped out.
 
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Just tunned in and it looks a nasty nasty day to be riding! PCS putting Vlasov dropped from the peloton, did he fall or something?
 
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Wonder if today's riders are more susceptible to this kind of days than in the past due to the way they train.

Nowadays they flock to southern spain, Canarias, South Africa, California, etc. during the winter months, try to avoid grizzly days as best as possible, turbotraining when it's raining, etc.

I have the impression they were more exposed to the elements in training 15 to 20 years ago.
 
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Wonder if today's riders are more susceptible to this kind of days than in the past due to the way they train.

Nowadays they flock to southern spain, Canarias, South Africa, California, etc. during the winter months, try to avoid grizzly days as best as possible, turbotraining when it's raining, etc.

I have the impression they were more exposed to the elements in training 15 to 20 years ago.
I wonder about this, too. But I also think that they are ultra lean, especially in GTs, and that can't help either.

I have mixed feelings about days like this -- yes, we love hard men etc, but if half the peloton drops out, no bueno.
 
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I wonder about this, too. But I also think that they are ultra lean, especially in GTs, and that can't help either.

I have mixed feelings about days like this -- yes, we love hard men etc, but if half the peloton drops out, no bueno.
There are no ideal winners in Cycling. I stand for Roglic and Thomas had his own days of bad luck. But if they are out because of a rainy day, that's it. The winner will also be a tougher rider.
 
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