Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 15: Seregno - Bergamo 195 km

[geisterhome]

the escape group has already an advantage of over 4mins on the group of wheelsuckers.

 

[HelloDolly]

Rob Hatch "Groupama FDJ look like they are mounting a defense" ?????

They look like they are out for a Sunday stroll

 

[QueenStagiaire]

When did it become rational to not even try on a stage before the second rest day just because the third week is hard? As if you‘re gonna blow yourself up by trying hard once days before the decisive stages.

 

[HelloDolly]

Ineos and the others are going to regret this day

Roglic has been waiting for the last week (for months now) and all the bonus seconds and they wont shake him then ....they need to attack him now and not wait ...they have the numbers.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I think Ineos is really, really stupid. This was their only chance to put any sort of pressure on Jumbo and iirc they blocked off the road instead of sending Arensman or de Plus up there. Now they‘re just hoping that Almeida and Roglič lose to Geraint Thomas.

Its classic Ineos racing. They are so accustomed to just having the best rider, even though that hasn't been the case since the late 10's. They are still riding as if they can just control everything and set it up for their superior rider, but thats not really the case most likely as I think both Roglic and Almeida will prove stronger in the high mountains.

And on top of that, its just annoying and negative and doesnt really contribute to exciting racing. A flagrant example of riding like that was in last year's Danmark Rundt where they set out to control the very hard Vejle-stage just to set it up perfectly for the much more accomplished puncheur Laporte, and he won the race easily.

 

[HelloDolly]

Ben Healy saying he " is not at a 100% but it doesnt mean he is not going to go out and race "

That is what we want to hear from the Brummie Irish man

Edit : Pity others in the peloton dont have that attitude about racing

 

[geisterhome]

Will the wheelsuckers continue through the smoke or will they demand the race to be canceled??

 

[RedheadDane]

People bringing smoke-cannons (or whatever they're called) should be forced to ride on a stationary bike while getting a bunch of smoke blown into their faces.

 

[Netserk]

Will the wheelsuckers continue through the smoke or will they demand the race to be canceled??

I don't get why the producers showed it. Like streakers, you should cut it out of the pictures.

 

[Valv.Piti]

When even Emil Axelgaard sounds depressed at how the riders have chosen to ride this race, you know that it has been boring.

 

[geisterhome]

Not sure

I don't get why the producers showed it. Like streakers, you should cut it out of the pictures.

Maybe to somehow justify the poor performance of the riders?

 

[RedheadDane]

Vine sure wasn't holding back when asked how his form is:

"Errr.. ***!"

 

[Tim Cahill]

They should be doing everything to make sure Rubio doesn't come back, possibly the strongest climber and won't do much pulling.

 

[ppanther92]

Vine sure wasn't holding back when asked how his form is:

"Errr.. ***!"

Why did he actually drop from the cliff that much? Sick?

 

[Gigs_98]

It's not dangerous if done right. Once in place where they move minimally and only in an easily predictable manner, it is safe. Even if annoying.

But some riders are willing to ride hazardously to get around it.

I think it's not only a legitimate strategy, I think it's actively good that it is employed. But it should be regulated (just like other aspects of racing) so that riders get punished if they recklessly endanger other riders, or if they use their arms to stop other riders.

C'mon, you cannot be serious arguing the issue is riders going around to blockage, not the ones doing the blocking. If a team decides to block the entire final climb of a mountain stage would you still be saying "oh well, that's sport".

Idk, I just can't believe some people are seriousy saying teams should have the power to decide whether riders from different teams are allowed to attack or not. Laying the blame on those riders not willing to abide to the wish of one or two teams...I honestly don't even know what to say...

 

[Netserk]

Why did he actually drop from the cliff that much? Sick?

I think so.

At first it was because the cold weather got to him on stage 10, a case of hypothermia, so he lost all power and just rolled to the finish.

 

[Red Rick]

Rubio is trying to close that gap way too fast.

 

[Netserk]

C'mon, you cannot be serious arguing the issue is riders going around to blockage, not the ones doing the blocking. If a team decides to block the entire final climb of a mountain stage would you still be saying "oh well, that's sport".

Idk, I just can't believe some people are seriousy saying teams should have the power to decide whether riders from different teams are allowed to attack or not. Laying the blame on those riders not willing to abide to the wish of one or two teams...I honestly don't even know what to say...

No one has it as their right that other riders, the peloton as a whole, must move to the side and give them a clear lane. Ask any sprinter that. If you want to be in a good enough position, you must fight for it.

The question is by what means riders are allowed to defend their position and to fight others for theirs.

EDIT: If you want room, make room. Like Sagan did on Kemmelberg in 2016 or 2017(?).

 

[Samamba]

Rubio is trying to close that gap way too fast.

He'll make it I think but indeed, should've just stayed calm and close it on the climb. Doubt the first group will actually go hard on it.

 

[Samamba]

Lol and now Rojas is going to wait, just when he's basically back.

 

[ice&fire]

Rubio is trying to close that gap way too fast.

They've stopped the cars while he's still half a minute behind and can't see whats ahead in those twisty roads. Let's hope he doesn't take a wrong turn somewhere.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Rubio has shown to have an excellent level in the high mountains in San Juan and UAE, I wonder how much time they will give him, thirs week really suits and he is riding himself into the race, can get a good GC finish if he gets enough time here.

 

[HelloDolly]

Why did he actually drop from the cliff that much? Sick?

maybe after his controversial interview and not being able to go in the break anymore he just gave up

 

[StryderHells]

Ballerini is having fun today

 

[Salvarani]

Marcellusi joins the breakaway