Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2024 Stage 17: Selva di Val Gardena/Wolkenstein in Gröden – Passo Brocon, 159.0k

[Miha81]

Horner is paying them all to have content.

Knuckleheads of the day award goes to...

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Watching Ghebreigzabhier put his rain jacket on was scary, if he had lost control of his bike for just a second he would have fallen off the mountain.

 

[ice&fire]

How many riders other than Pog will do the final climb faster than Contador in his recon?

 

[titan31]

I agree he could or should be more agressive, but that also doesn't seem to be exactly his strength, so I just think it's unfair to call him a disgrace just because he's trying to get the most out of what he can do and doesn't fancy trying stuff that's not so suited to him. I mean I dislike it as well, but it's not disgracefull it's just boring, okay sometimes negative racing.

Tbf though, it's not like a lack of explosivity should stop a rider being able to attack. He rides for a stacked team that could try to use numbers for their advantage. Like you think of the Vingegaard and Roglic attack from miles out in the Tour that broke Pogacar. No reason Thomas and Arensman can't try something like that against Martinez. They could try ambush him early in a stage too, get someone like Ganna up the road and then start to attack, isolate him (easy since Lipowitz is out) and then they and distance him. You don't need to be doing some super accelerations up climbs like Pog is doing to break someone.

 

[Froome]

How many riders other than Pog will do the final climb faster than Contador in his recon?

Nobody. Contador with 41 years would do second on this Giro.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Looks like Steinhauser can win this if UAE don‘t bother.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Pogacar's post-race interviews about random breakaway riders remind me of Guardiola saying how much he admires Burnley and Sheffield United's playstyle minutes after beating them 7 nill.

Hahahaha I was looking for such an analogy for days, brilliant!

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Tbf though, it's not like a lack of explosivity should stop a rider being able to attack. He rides for a stacked team that could try to use numbers for their advantage. Like you think of the Vingegaard and Roglic attack from miles out in the Tour that broke Pogacar. No reason Thomas and Arensman can't try something like that against Martinez. They could try ambush him early in a stage too, get someone like Ganna up the road and then start to attack, isolate him (easy since Lipowitz is out) and then they and distance him. You don't need to be doing some super accelerations up climbs like Pog is doing to break someone.

True, but that's team tactics, and not just down to him. I was looking more at his individual abilities and why he races like he does in most races.

The problem with your Idea is that Bahrain would react to an Arensman attack, and at some point Tiberi personally. So isolating Martinez is easy, getting rid of him not so much I guess. Today you could also see that many teams rode, for some reason, so this plan seems like it would have been rather doomed to begin with.

But yeah, they should be more aggressive.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Nobody. Contador with 41 years would do second on this Giro.

I think his chance of doing that would have been 0.00000000005%

 

[topcat]

Are we expecting all out lethargy on the final climb?

 

[Samamba]

If Pogacar doesn't want to Steinhauser has this. And I don't think UAE cares.

 

[Colombiano Cadence]

Surely Steinhauser has this now? All UAE can stop him and I don’t think they will

 

[SHAD0W93]

Nobody. Contador with 41 years would do second on this Giro.

False, Contador didn’t race for second. He’d have blown himself up attacking then lose his placement on the final stage.

 

[Didinho]

He has a lot of sunglasses to bribe people with.

Steinhauser’s new pink glasses will look good with his helmet.

 

[topcat]

Breaking news: there are now more riders in the peloton than there were earlier. It's all teed up for another vomit inducing
inducing stage.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Final climb starts for Steinhauser. Go Schorsch!

Edit: just realise I passed 2000 messages. Didn't think this would ever happen haha.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

If Pogacar doesn't want to Steinhauser has this. And I don't think UAE cares.

Only if Pogi wants Majka to win, but that's probably not very likely.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

False, Contador didn’t race for second. He’d have blown himself up attacking then lose his placement on the final stage.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJE5_4Rm90

when Contador happily came 2nd in the Giro

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Tomorrow is a flat day , I look forward to all the GC guys attacking each other on the final climb to try and get time back.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Sky train kills the race, just like in the old days

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I want Steinhauser to win but I also don't want Ineos fake pacing the peleton succeed. Tricky situation.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Hopefully Derek ßee takes the stage, better that than the clowns in the bunch

 

[Froome]

False, Contador didn’t race for second. He’d have blown himself up attacking then lose his placement on the final stage.

He would blown himself up, and still do second.
Then he would take a shower and after the shower, Martinez probably didn't even finished the stage.

 

[Colombiano Cadence]

I want Steinhauser to win but I also don't want Ineos fake pacing the peleton succeed. Tricky situation.

Totally

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Steinhauser giving away his glasses in order to be free to receive them from Pogacar when he passes him later.