Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2024 Stage 17: Selva di Val Gardena/Wolkenstein in Gröden – Passo Brocon, 159.0k

[Colombiano Cadence]

Surely Bardet has to try something?? You would be mightily pissed if you were a DSM rider and he never even tried

 

[Miha81]

I think breakaway has this unless somebody goes nuclear

 

[Froome]

Ineos pushing in the front, and Steinhauser increasing the gap. Unbeliavable.

 

[titan31]

True, but that's team tactics, and not just down to him. I was looking more at his individual abilities and why he races like he does in most races.

The problem with your Idea is that Bahrain would react to an Arensman attack, and at some point Tiberi personally. So isolating Martinez is easy, getting rid of him not so much I guess. Today you could also see that many teams rode, for some reason, so this plan seems like it would have been rather doomed to begin with.

But yeah, they should be more aggressive.

Tbf though, he's the leader of the team. The fact that they never do that is on him as much as it's on Ineos. If he was to tell them, we're going to try this today, I'm sure they'd try it

 

[Froome]

C'mon O Connor, drop Thomas and take the podium spot from him.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

German commentators think Pogacar wouldn't be able to close this gap anymore now. Clueless lol.

 

[Squire]

Ineos pushing in the front, and Steinhauser increasing the gap. Unbeliavable.

It's Ben Swift ...

 

[Tim Cahill]

Reminder that Thomas tried stopping Pidcock attacking on that Galibier stage, this is who we are dealing with, Gerrans in GC form.

 

[titan31]

Pathetic from the peleton again. What were DSM even bothering today for

 

[SHAD0W93]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJE5_4Rm90

when Contador happily came 2nd in the Giro

That’s not GC, which is what was being talked about.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Reminder that Thomas tried stopping Pidcock attacking on that Galibier stage, this is who we are dealing with, Gerrans in GC form.

Gerrans Thomas?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Hopefully for peloton not to make the time cut. After all the hard work DSM been doing and now this.

 

[Didinho]

Pogi losing more condition than an Oman stage.

Anyone found a reason yet for what DSM was doing?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Ineos pushing in the front, and Steinhauser increasing the gap. Unbeliavable.

They're not riding to win the stage, and limiting the available bonus seconds on the line is in their interest, too.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Tbf though, he's the leader of the team. The fact that they never do that is on him as much as it's on Ineos. If he was to tell them, we're going to try this today, I'm sure they'd try it

Yes I am not arguing that he has no part in it, just that I was more focused on his abilities in my original post.
I agree he should suggest something like that. If he's at all strong enough. If not than it would be stupid to gamble on Arensman taking 3 minutes on everyone and therefore possibly loose 3rd.

But my original intent was to state that I don't think he is a disgrace for cycling. I am not saying he isn't an unexiting rider and I've never fancied him even a bit.

 

[Froome]

It's Ben Swift ...

I know. They want to limit the bonus.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Oh wait Kelly has it figured out I think, it's for the ****ing teams classification

 

[Potomac]

Come on Steinhauser.
Fingers crossed.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Last year all over again.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Oh wait Kelly has it figured out I think, it's for the ****ing teams classification

They aren‘t going to beat the Paret-Peintres, they just needed to save Narvaez to get to the steep part of the climb.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Sheffiled pacing the front hard ready to launch gerant Thomas like a rocketship!

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Ineos change of plans? Peleton now stretched out and gap coming down.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Jhonny really justifying his Olympics selection with this display here

 

[Gigs_98]

I think breakaway has this unless somebody goes nuclear

"somebody"

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Sheffiled pacing the front hard ready to launch gerant Thomas like a rocketship!

Sheffield is in the Grupetto