Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2024: Stage-by-stage analysis

[QueenStagiaire]

Vegni says they will start looking for alternatives tomorrow

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Previsto un percorso alternativo dopo la cancellazione dello Stelvio: "Una soluzione la prenderemo da domani in avanti". Pompei-Cusano Mutri, spazio agli attaccanti, interessante la salita finale

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[ashhutch1997]

So let me get this straight.... They are going to try and use Umbrail Pass (Switzerland's highest pass) last minute, but they couldn't get the Swiss authorities to clear the roads on the Forcola di Livigno, which is 200m lower in altitude..... Make that make sense.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

So let me get this straight.... They are going to try and use Umbrail Pass (Switzerland's highest pass) last minute, but they couldn't get the Swiss authorities to clear the roads on the Forcola di Livigno, which is 200m lower in altitude..... Make that make sense.

Especially because the Swiss side of Livigno is the south side and almost completely just the Berninapass climb and the Swiss side of Umbrail is the northern side. Still, though, I think Umbrail usually opens earlier.

 

[Drew]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790368014082224213

View: https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1790368014082224213

 

[Nick2413]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790368014082224213

View: https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1790368014082224213

Seems great to me

 

[Gigs_98]

So pretty much no change. Great news, but I echo the sentiment of @ashhutch1997 . Gonna be very hard to explain, how this is doable, but the originial Livigno stage isn't.

 

[Netserk]

Still plenty of time for RCS to change it again.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Still plenty of time for RCS to change it again.

Or for Adam Hansen…

 

[ashhutch1997]

Still plenty of time for RCS to change it again.

I think they are really stuck right now, given the limited options to go from Livigino. It'll be interesting how they can suddenly clear the Umbrail Passs, but wouldn't clear the Gavia (2019), Fedaia and Pordoi (2021) and the Grand Saint Bernard last year, when there was an easier route that they could do each time...... Goes to show that Vengi just doesn't want hassle with clearing these passes when there's an easy option available.
If this is the case, just give us really good low altitude route like 2015, rather than disappointing fans every year..

 

[ashhutch1997]

Or for Adam Hansen…

Yeah, probably 5 mins before the start of the stage, despite knowing the route for over a week in advance..

 

[Red Rick]

I think they are really stuck right now, given the limited options to go from Livigino. It'll be interesting how they can suddenly clear the Umbrail Passs, but wouldn't clear the Gavia (2019), Fedaia and Pordoi (2021) and the Grand Saint Bernard last year, when there was an easier route that they could do each time...... Goes to show that Vengi just doesn't want hassle with clearing these passes when there's an easy option available.
If this is the case, just give us really good low altitude route like 2015, rather than disappointing fans every year..

None of the 4 examples you mentioned were about clearing snow for a race in good weather. Gavia had active snow on top and risk of avalanches, Fedaia, Pordoi and GSB were all raceable but riders where throwing hissy fits

 

[QueenStagiaire]

None of the 4 examples you mentioned were about clearing snow for a race in good weather. Gavia had active snow on top and risk of avalanches, Fedaia, Pordoi and GSB were all raceable but riders where throwing hissy fits

GSB wasn‘t raceable, the tunnel was raceable, the top part didn‘t have the snow cleared.

 

[Escarabajo]

Can someone shed some light on the difference between the two mountains. Are they the same one or they both take different roads?

 

[Netserk]

Can someone shed some light on the difference between the two mountains. Are they the same one or they both take different roads?

They come from Bormio and go over Umbrail towards Santa Maria Val Müstair instead of going over Stelvio towards Prato allo Stelvio.

So they will climb this profile:

Instead of climbing this one:

 

[Cookster15]

Weather disappointing at the Giro again. Stelvio is epic and good for the sport with the pictures it brings. Made more famous outside cycling by Top Gear when they rated it the best driving road (in Europe?). Don't know much about Umbrail Pass.

Do they always plan an alternative route before the Giro and if so, do they keep the teams informed? I don't like the idea of a low altitude Giro .

I also now know why Devils Elbow didn't write anything about stage 13 .

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Weather disappointing at the Giro again. Stelvio is epic and good for the sport with the pictures it brings. Made more famous outside cycling by Top Gear when they rated it the best driving road (in Europe?). Don't know much about Umbrail Pass.

Do they always plan an alternative route before the Giro and if so, do they keep the teams informed? I don't like the idea of a low altitude Giro .

I also now know why Devils Elbow didn't write anything about stage 13 .

Most of Umbrail pass ascent is actually Stelvio west so there will be some nice hairpins pics. The epic Stelvio east descent (with views on giant Ortler massif) will be missing though (anyway Stelvio is better to tackle the other direction and closer to the end of the stage, which almost never happens).

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I also now know why Devils Elbow didn't write anything about stage 13 .

I did, but apparently I labeled it as stage 12.

 

[search]

Can someone shed some light on the difference between the two mountains. Are they the same one or they both take different roads?

They come from Bormio and go over Umbrail towards Santa Maria Val Müstair instead of going over Stelvio towards Prato allo Stelvio.

here's also ne new stage map from the Giro. Blue route is the original one:

so yeah: same climb, same road, they just turn north ~2.5k from the top of the Stelvio and take a detour through Switzerland.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Updated the Stage 16 post with today's route changes.

 

[ashhutch1997]

They come from Bormio and go over Umbrail towards Santa Maria Val Müstair instead of going over Stelvio towards Prato allo Stelvio.

So they will climb this profile:

Instead of climbing this one:

Not related, but the Northside of the Umbrail Pass is a cracking climb. The 2017 Giro stage was a great design, despite doing the 'easy' sides of the Mortirolo and Stelvio..

 

[Sciatic]

here's also ne new stage map from the Giro. Blue route is the original one:

so yeah: same climb, same road, they just turn north ~2.5k from the top of the Stelvio and take a detour through Switzerland.

Wow, so they could if they wanted have a future Giro stage that finishes with Umbrail & Stelvio passes back-to-back? Sorry, I’m sure this has been discussed a zillion times in the route design thread.

 

[Brullnux]

Wow, so they could if they wanted have a future Giro stage that finishes with Umbrail & Stelvio passes back-to-back? Sorry, I’m sure this has been discussed a zillion times in the route design thread.

They did this in 2017, when Dumoulin had to take a ***

 

[RedheadDane]

They did this in 2017, when Dumoulin had to take a ***

Maybe they decided it was a shitty idea...

 

[Escarabajo]

Wow, so they could if they wanted have a future Giro stage that finishes with Umbrail & Stelvio passes back-to-back? Sorry, I’m sure this has been discussed a zillion times in the route design thread.

2017 Giro

 

[Netserk]

They did this in 2017, when Dumoulin had to take a ***

Yes, but in the wrong order.