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Passo Giau. Croix de Coeur as an outside one. Val di Zoldo stage was good too as a design (Cibiana 26 km from the line before Coi-Val di Zoldo).
Obviously the MTT meant that the riders didn't have much incentive to attack there but the chance was there.

Hardly anyone attacks on Giau before Tre Cime and with the MTT on the next day. I think attack on Mortirolo next year is about as likely.
And Croix de Coeur is maybe less likely than Grappa as well (okay, maybe I'm being negative)

Fair point about Cibiana though, but that was still the first of a hard finale.
 
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Hasn't it been scheduled and then removed because of too much snow?
It may be. I can't remeber just now. But there are several other 2600+ climbs being used in the Giro. So one would think that Gavia could be used. The first option should be Carlo Magno-Tonale-Gavia. And if Gavia couldn't be used because of snow, they could have used Mortirolo.
 
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Hasn't it been scheduled and then removed because of too much snow? And in 2014, its use wasn't really a situation with a lot of happy memories.
It was scheduled in 2019. This year it was necessary for a good Bormio stage and the way the winter in the Alps has been going, the road could at least be cleared, so it‘s sad to not see an attempt.
 
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Btw, regarding the Bormio stage. Have they stopped using Gavia? It hasn't been used since 2014. Is the road or descent considered to be too bad?
It would have been used in 2019 until it got cancelled due to snow, then in 2020 they made the right call in doing Stelvio instead, in 2021 they didn’t go anywhere near it, in 2022 they did the dumbest Aprica stage ever instead (but the big problem there was not the lack of Gavia), in 2023 they didn’t go anywhere near it and in 2024 they scammed their audience with the presented route over Forcola di Livigno that they never actually seemed to plan on following through on (but would have been better than going via Gavia had they actually done it). So this is really the first year since then where using Gavia would have been a big improvement over the actually-presented stage, and even then I would have preferred Monte Padrio - Mortirolo from either the classic side or the 2012 route from Tovo - drag up the valley into Bormio.
 
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I mapped an alternative version of the Asiago stage. I actually managed to add another tough climb (Malga Budui), doing the Monte Grappa climb tougher by using Bocca di Forca and still having a 20 km shorter stage. The design choices for this stage is just absurdly bad. Adding distance to do the easiest ascent of Grappa. And then doing a descent that adds more flat between Grappa and the climb to Foza. That is just insane!
 
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I mapped an alternative version of the Asiago stage. I actually managed to add another tough climb (Malga Budui), doing the Monte Grappa climb tougher by using Bocca di Forca and still having a 20 km shorter stage. The design choices for this stage is just absurdly bad. Adding distance to do the easiest ascent of Grappa. And then doing a descent that adds more flat between Grappa and the climb to Foza. That is just insane!
You can do sooo many better stages with it, but RCS are just as lazy as it gets.
I hope the super neutered Bormio stage means that riders will actually have the balls to attack on stage 16.
*Sees Roglic as the pre-race favourite* Ok, as long as Bufalo Thomas doesn't also show up at least the UAE guys should try to attack him with their numbers.
 
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Stage 4 - I can't believe they've missed the opportunity to bait some echelon action. They could have gone straight down the Adriatic coast to Lecce hopping for cross winds off the sea but no just go down the centre of the Salentine peninsula miles from the sea.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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It would have been used in 2019 until it got cancelled due to snow, then in 2020 they made the right call in doing Stelvio instead, in 2021 they didn’t go anywhere near it, in 2022 they did the dumbest Aprica stage ever instead (but the big problem there was not the lack of Gavia), in 2023 they didn’t go anywhere near it and in 2024 they scammed their audience with the presented route over Forcola di Livigno that they never actually seemed to plan on following through on (but would have been better than going via Gavia had they actually done it). So this is really the first year since then where using Gavia would have been a big improvement over the actually-presented stage, and even then I would have preferred Monte Padrio - Mortirolo from either the classic side or the 2012 route from Tovo - drag up the valley into Bormio.
the extra climb up to Motte is just the seasoning on the *** cake.

If you really wanna be minimalistic in designing that stage, you just take the recta Contador road, and once descended you just go straight to Bormio without detours and it's still better than this one.
 
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You can do sooo many better stages with it, but RCS are just as lazy as it gets.
I hope the super neutered Bormio stage means that riders will actually have the balls to attack on stage 16.
*Sees Roglic as the pre-race favourite* Ok, as long as Bufalo Thomas doesn't also show up at least the UAE guys should try to attack him with their numbers.
Buffalo Gee-ro in pink will force Rogla to engage in long-range defense!
 
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I do like it. It's more a 6 than a 7 but still good enough and a lot better than the past two editions.
My biggest gripe is the laughable ITT and stage 15. The rest is fine.
Yes, stage 17 is bad, but in the context of the third week I think it's ok. Stage 15 really needed to be a proper mountain stage though
 
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I do like it. It's more a 6 than a 7 but still good enough and a lot better than the past two editions.
My biggest gripe is the laughable ITT and stage 15. The rest is fine.
Yes, stage 17 is bad, but in the context of the third week I think it's ok. Stage 15 really needed to be a proper mountain stage though
Two TTs for 40km is bang normal, especially cause the main one is actually flat this time. If you had better mountains I'd agree it's too short.

Worst part for me is how easy it is to make it so much better, without changing fishing locations. Even Bormio can be better so easily with minimalistic design, Asiago can just go the regular Grappa side and then Foza like in 2017 and it's okay, cause even I know deep down that Bocca di Forca isn't happening while my grandchildren are alive.

Then you put that whatevername climb in Castelraimondo where Poels won and make Gorizia a murito stage, then you add 25km to the 2nd ITT and you suddenly have a route.

There is no excuses for logistics or altitude here.
 
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Yes, stage 17 is bad, but in the context of the third week I think it's ok.
If they needed to nerf one of the third-week mountain stages to limit the backloading (and I agree it's necessary not to go all out with all four of them), then they should have turned Champoluc into a breakaway day, not Bormio. It has the least exciting potential terrain (which says a lot when you can use the Valle d'Aosta finale) and it comes the day before Finestre, which makes it the only one of the four where you can't all but guarantee good GC action.
 
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If they needed to nerf one of the third-week mountain stages to limit the backloading (and I agree it's necessary not to go all out with all four of them), then they should have turned Champoluc into a breakaway day, not Bormio. It has the least exciting potential terrain (which says a lot when you can use the Valle d'Aosta finale) and it comes the day before Finestre, which makes it the only one of the four where you can't all but guarantee good GC action.
Agree on that. Now you have essentially a stage that tries to be a queen stage risking turning into a breakaway stage cause tomorrow is Finestre. The originally predicted route with less but steeper climbs was better for that reason IMO. Stage 18 of 2023 is an example. Hell, even Pratonevoso and Rabassa worked in that exact spot in 2018.
 

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Another mediocre and backloaded Giro route but sadly that has been the norm lately. Still better than the Vuelta though.

+ Grande Partenza is good and better than the Tour and Vuelta equivalents
+ Third week is very hard and nice to have Finestre back
+ Sterrato stage
- Second week is too easy and stage 15 is joke
- Low amount of ITT kilometers
- Lack of high altitude climbs

Overall 5/10
 
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Hell, even Pratonevoso and Rabassa worked in that exact spot in 2018.
The final week pure unipuerto is actually quite underrated. Alpe di Mera was also good in 2021, Tentudía was shockingly decent for a climb of its difficulty in 2022, Bejes delivered in 2023, Moncalvillo was pretty good in 2024, and that's basically all the stages that fit the bill from 2019 onwards. I'm definitely at a point where I see it as a very good option to start your final mountain block with, especially if it's the only major MTF of said block.

So I guess we should increase our expectations of Morredero for the upcoming Vuelta.