Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

[OlavEH]

The Mortirolo, Contador version, means going straight up here instead of continuing along the main road from Monno?

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[Netserk]

Yes.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Any specific rumors on the ITT?

Around 15kms in Albania (apparently, not sure about the length) and they are talking about a Lucca-Pisa TT, apparently around 30kms long.

 

[JReed27]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851564593157394654

Seems like Recta Contador is firmly on the table. This seems to suggest a shorter stage than I previously envisioned (probably only around 4000m of climbing) and includes the climb to Le Motte. I'm not sure whether Le Motte makes it better or worse or just different but the top of the Mortirolo is now 45km from the finish instead of 35km. Personally I would either finish at the top of Le Motte or bypass it entirely

 

[ashhutch1997]

Between that and Stelvio they obviously pick the worse option.

And the Gavia FFS

 

[OlavEH]

Between that and Stelvio they obviously pick the worse option.

Probably a question about logistics and where they start the stage. If they start in Riva or surroundings, doing Stelvio would mean a pretty long stage. But Gavia should be an option. Carlo Magno - Tonale - Gavia and Bormio 2000 would be a nice combo of climbs.

 

[JReed27]

I feel like the rumoured stage would be a good back up to the Gavia. tbf Stelvio never really felt like an option given where the stage is supposedly starting from (although it can't be riva del garda given the length of the stage so that rumour can't be entirely true)

 

[OlavEH]

I feel like the rumoured stage would be a good back up to the Gavia

Exactly! That should be the plan. Especially if they are to finish Bormio 2000.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Brother I am afraid of evening mentioning the Gavia anymore

"I prefer not to speak".

 

[ashhutch1997]

I feel like the rumoured stage would be a good back up to the Gavia. tbf Stelvio never really felt like an option given where the stage is supposedly starting from (although it can't be riva del garda given the length of the stage so that rumour can't be entirely true)

This, I think it would be a great back up, but atleast attempt to do the Gavia, it's right there.

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851564593157394654

Seems like Recta Contador is firmly on the table. This seems to suggest a shorter stage than I previously envisioned (probably only around 4000m of climbing) and includes the climb to Le Motte. I'm not sure whether Le Motte makes it better or worse or just different but the top of the Mortirolo is now 45km from the finish instead of 35km. Personally I would either finish at the top of Le Motte or bypass it entirely

Not bad. I like it

 

[OlavEH]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851564593157394654

Seems like Recta Contador is firmly on the table. This seems to suggest a shorter stage than I previously envisioned (probably only around 4000m of climbing) and includes the climb to Le Motte. I'm not sure whether Le Motte makes it better or worse or just different but the top of the Mortirolo is now 45km from the finish instead of 35km. Personally I would either finish at the top of Le Motte or bypass it entirely

151 km means that they can't be starting in Riva. The best would be a Carlo Magno - Tonale - Gavia - Bormio 2000 stage as the main plan. This feels a bit meaningless. But at least it isn't a bad stage on paper.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Fwiw the article linked in the LaFlammeRouge tweet doesn't mention a 151k distance and does mention Riva as the stage start.

I do think looping around Le Motte makes the stage marginally worse, but anyone looking to gain meaningful time will still have to attack on Mortirolo.

 

[OlavEH]

From 2021 to 2024 there are something like 3-4 stages combined with a design for attacks further out than 10-15 kms. Now I don't think something will happen on Grappa and San Pellegrino in Alpe, but I still like the design. For the 2025 version we could have absolutely no big MTFs, but Sestriere, Champoluc, Bormio and Asiago as stage finish, and climbs like Finestre, Mortirolo, Zuccore, Grappa and San Pellegrino in Alpe as the biggest climbs on stages, and none of the as the last climb.

 

[JReed27]

From 2021 to 2024 there are something like 3-4 stages combined with a design for attacks further out than 10-15 kms. Now I don't think something will happen on Grappa and San Pellegrino in Alpe, but I still like the design. For the 2025 version we could have absolutely no big MTFs, but Sestriere, Champoluc, Bormio and Asiago as stage finish, and climbs like Finestre, Mortirolo, Zuccore, Grappa and San Pellegrino in Alpe as the biggest climbs on stages, and none of the as the last climb.

It would be really ballsy if the biggest summit finish was to Marsia, with a good sterrato stage and 2 TTs it would force any strong climber to attack from far and not rely on a future summit finish. It would be a huge risk and you would have to have a lot of faith in the stage designs but it could lead to a great and dynamic race. If this turns out to be true I hope it succeeds so fans and organisers can see what well designed mountain stages can offer. It would also be the polar opposite of the tours current design template which i have to say I'm not a huge fan of

 

[OlavEH]

It would be really ballsy if the biggest summit finish was to Marsia, with a good sterrato stage and 2 TTs it would force any strong climber to attack from far and not rely on a future summit finish. It would be a huge risk and you would have to have a lot of faith in the stage designs but it could lead to a great and dynamic race. If this turns out to be true I hope it succeeds so fans and organisers can see what well designed mountain stages can offer. It would also be the polar opposite of the tours current design template which i have to say I'm not a huge fan of

I would actually welcome 1 big MTF somewhere around the third weekend, that is stage 13-15. Otherwise, I think the current rumoured route seems amazing. The biggest danger is perhaps pacing of some of the stages (like the Aosta stage the day before Finestre and the Torbole stage before Bormio). And if the start list is not that good, we could end up with riders who don't dare to attack much until the last weekend.

 

[JReed27]

This route treating Pradaccio as anything othr than a throway stage vexes me

The stage would probably be better if they avoided it

 

[E_F_]

These threads really are a lot more fun before the route reveals, aren't they.

 

[gregrowlerson]

These threads really are a lot more fun before the route reveals, aren't they.

The route reveals are like NYE. Getting drunk is never as fun as you envisaged, and you don't get to kiss the girl.

 

[search]

RCS has just sent out a press release that the Giro presentation has been postponed "to a date yet to be determined".

 

[Eshnar]

yeah, that's concerning

 

[pastronef]

RIP Albania start

NO!

 

[Coffeeplanter]

Allegedly because the Grande Partenza was part of the migration deal between the Italian and Albanian government, which ain't doing too well currently.

Joke of a race, joke of a country.

 

[Netserk]

A Sicily Grande Partenza could be a good substitute. Or Calabria.

In any case, it shouldn't disturb stage 7 and onwards, so no biggie.

Allegedly because the Grande Partenza was part of the migration deal between the Italian and Albanian government, which ain't doing too well currently.

Joke of a race, joke of a country.

Italy or Albania? Same, same.

 

[SafeBet]

A Sicily Grande Partenza could be a good substitute. Or Calabria.

Calabria is highly unlikely.
Sicilia would be meh as always.