Giro d'Italia Giro D'Italia 2025 Stage 9: Gubbio – Siena (181km)

[AnotherArmChair]

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[Peyroteo94]

WVA did the right thing today. Del Toro was stronger so he gambled to have a chance. Cycling is not always about power. If it was, Pogacar would win every race.

 

[Blanco]

Nobody remembers in 10 years - only the palmares count.

Some of the most revered riders in cycling history were complete arseholes on the road (some in civilian life as well).

Well, I can't remember any of the greats winning like this...

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I think it's clear that some people here wanted to have had Wout work really hard, so he could come in 2nd, so they could have posted their regular posts about how Wout only races for 2nd, because it's al he is capable of, blah, blah, blah.

All of you came in 2nd today, to great posters who cheer for Wout. Taste the loss and live to fight another day...

 

[Boehmand]

Think it's absurd to sacrifice helping Ciccone for a super low% shot at Vacek.

Watching Vacek on the first 9 stages, makes me wonder why you would think the was "super low %" to take the stage.

He's a top quality rider, almost as strong as Pedersen but a better climber.

- And Lidl's DS seems to agree with me

 

[Cycling111]

WVA did the right thing today. Del Toro was stronger so he gambled to have a chance. Cycling is not always about power. If it was, Pogacar would win every race.

Yes, and I'm happy for Wout, he needed it. But it's curious how opinions change depending on who's sucking wheels
Arriesta yesterday for example.

If it had been the other way around, I suspect some reactions would be different.

 

[solo80k]

Great finish. Del Toro in the pink with 1min + advantage. He is really talented but WVA was able to teach him a small lesson today. Bernal with some positive vibes and wise positioning but he still lacks firepower.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Well, I can't remember any of the greats winning like this...

New to watching cycling, I see.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Well, I can't remember any of the greats winning like this...

It's a bit ironic you are a Valverde fan

 

[Boehmand]

Well, I can't remember any of the greats winning like this...

That leaves me with the question of whether that is because of youth or early onset dementia

 

[Blanco]

Yes, absolutely, 100%.

You wouldn't have been happy if he'd won under any scenario, so why pretend your take has anything to do with anything else but hatred of a rider.

I actually would, because all the problems he had. I admit, I'm not the biggest fan around, but he gave me the stong case today why it is that way.

 

[TastyGroceries]

- And Lidl's DS seems to agree with me

I think that's exactly what you should be concerned about.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

It's a bit ironic you are a Valverde fan

Okay, sometimes you annoy me, but this post is <chef's kiss> perfect!

 

[Blanco]

New to watching cycling, I see.

Be free to point me the example.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I wanted Del Toro to win, and I wanted Van Aert to win too simply cause hes taken alot of beatings and are yeah not his prior best and I think he deserves it. What does that make me—Chewbacca? Did I win or did I lose?

You are a great champion in any scenario. Wheelsucking to a Wout hater post, playing the field, or being okay with his win for one day. You're an all-arounder.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Be free to point me the example.

As has been pointed out..go watch Valverde on a number of occasions.

 

[Boehmand]

I think that's exactly what you should be concerned about.

Yeah, what does the 2nd highest ranked team in the world (without Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel and MvdP) know - they should spend more time on the forums

 

[Blanco]

It's a bit ironic you are a Valverde fan

Yes, I am. And I'm aware how he rode, but I can't remember him doing such ride, and there are plenty examples of the opposite, and even on these same roads.

 

[Blanco]

As has been pointed out..go watch Valverde on a number of occasions.

Find me one, and I will take back everything I said.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Okay, sometimes you annoy me, but this post is <chef's kiss> perfect!

You can always use your ignore button. Since I blocked those 2 users, I'm happier and you also annoy me sometimes.

 

[Unchained]

I'm liking this washed up Wout.
I hope Ayuso and Del Toro start infighting.
And Roglic will have to go on the offensive if he wants this. Doing the last 500m sprint at the hilltop ain't gonna cut it. Take a page from your countryman and get aggressive Rogla!
This Giro is looking good, can't wait for the coming 2 weeks!

Del Toro will not be fighting with anyone, teammates or management.
He is very shy, as expected he is most comfortable in Spanish, and can speak respectable Italian after living there for a couple of years. He speaks 2 kinds of English, with people he knows and friends, with no pressure, he is fine. Put a camera and microphone in his face, he gets nervous and shy, doesn't like attention, doesn't like limelight and is overly modest. People are commenting about him looking unhappy, likely he struggling not to be balling his eyes out with tears of joy and over the top excitement about a dream come true!! In Italy no less!! Where Monex had team house based!!
Any stories about Del Toro arguing with anyone, about anything are made up fiction. Not in his DNA,
he has likely argued with Brandon McNulty about getting married in La Paz or Puerto Vallarta instead of Ensenada which is obviously better!!!McNulty is from Phoenix and probably didn't know better!!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

He was allowed to ride, and if it surprises you that he was allowed to do so, then I am wondering what in the world would make you think it would have ever been anything different. Your hate for the team is evident, but this take is ridiculous.

WTF?

I'm disagreeing with the poster who is complaining that van Aert didn't ride like a champion because he didn't collaborate with del Toro.

I'm saying that van Aert would have been an idiot if he had rode like the poster is demanding him to, because he would both increase his chances of winning and his team's by riding like he did today in order to win the stage.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, I am. And I'm aware how he rode, but I can't remember him doing such ride, and there are plenty examples of the opposite, and even on these same roads.

Like in 2022 when he completely messed group 2 cooperation?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

WTF?

I'm disagreeing with the poster who is complaining that van Aert didn't ride like a champion because he didn't collaborate with del Toro.

I'm saying that van Aert would have been an idiot if he had rode like the poster is demanding him to, because he would both increase his chances of winning and his team's by riding like he did today in order to win the stage.

Sorry, I read it the opposite.

 

[tobydawq]

What cheap shot?
So you really think a champion like Van Aert should be proud of this ride? Cause I don't. Would Van Der Poel do something like this, or Boonen, or Sagan, hell even Valverde in the small groups do his share of work.
And what piss on Yates, he could go on the front doing smaller and weaker turns than Del Toro, time difference would be the same or 10 sec more at most. His ride today was strong, but I wouldn't be proud very much with it.

He literally said he wasn't proud to do it but he had no choice.

And whether or not he should be proud was not what was being discussed.