Giro d'Italia Stage 19: Brescia - Aprica (195km)

[slowoldman]

After reading through the latter part of the stage thread, I can see "wheelsucking" has become the new "hold your line"

 

[Francois the Postman]

Been a great day to watch cycling for anyone who loves the sport. Absolutely amazed to see that folk on this forum have to finish it off with petty squabbles in well trodden arenas.

And thoroughly sick and tired off folk throwing "doper" accusations at the end of every high profile stage here their guy loses out. I guess I am just weird to be a cycling fan who is glad to see all these riders here, and who has thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle on offer. We'll know in time if they all cycled within the stated range. I assume they all were, those that have returned I almost trust more now, in a warped way. But until I get proof otherwise, they all are fighting on level footing now.

Most riders here did fantastic, everyone had to give it their all at one point or anothere, known weaknesses showed, and almost everyone truly shined at differents parts of the finale. Wow.

And all were obviously spent towards the end. NO-ONE sucked wheels. You don't get at the end of stage 19 by not riding hard yourself.

Racing as it should be. As I said, I love this sport.

 

[El Imbatido]

i think he is saying suck my d..k

 

[sportzchick]

I know, some times it is difficult to stay quiet .

For the most part the thread has been pretty good.

Bloody great race though!!

I learned the hard way a couple of nights ago the best thing to do is to shut up and pretend you agree with everything regadless

 

[TRDean]

Been a great day to watch cycling for anyone who loves the sport. Absolutely amazed to see that folk on this forum have to finish it off with petty squabbles in well trodden arenas.

And thoroughly sick and tired off folk throwing "doper" accusations at the end of every high profile stage here their guy loses out. I guess I am just weird to be a cycling fan who is glad to see all these riders here, and who has thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle on offer. We'll know in time if they all cycled within the stated range. I assume they all were, those that have returned I almost trust more now, in a warped way. But until I get proof otherwise, they all are fighting on level footing now.

Most riders here did fantastic, everyone had to give it their all at one point or anothere, known weaknesses showed, and almost everyone truly shined at differents parts of the finale. Wow.

And all were obviously spent towards the end. NO-ONE sucked wheels. You don't get at the end of stage 19 by not riding hard yourself.

Racing as it should be. As I said, I love this sport.

Francois...couldn't agree more!!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

because he disagreed with you? if you don't want to talk about doping then SHUT THE **** UP!

Doping is for the clinic, if you can't obey the rules than dissapear

 

[LukeSchmid]

Beating someone by 9mins who was a former champion means nothing, Basso should have Sastre covered by around 18mins and he won the TDF only 2 years ago.

Simoni 9mins - Sastre 18mins which one is more conclusive hmm?

You might be right about Basso doping - nothing would be surprising even Evans doping - but your description of Simoni is what got to me. You went way too far over the top

 

[Moondance]

Please..what is smd???

Suck my Hey-Ho!!!

Or at least that's what I think.

 

[TRDean]

i think he is saying suck my d..k

Well, that just isn't nice!!

 

[dsut4392]

Until you all smd

noice... I'm betting you have no idea what that would even feel like, unless you're a yoga adept.

 

[auscyclefan94]

+ 1 to that being said about probably the only person who has constantly shown nothing but patience and tolerance to your incessant showing of lack of intelligence and understanding of the sport.
Had enough of you. You're on the ignore list.
The troll above will keep you company there.

Whatever...no loss forr me!

What is Evans' advantage for the points jersey? That would not be a bad thing to walk away with (along with an awesome win on the strade bianche stage).

I guess, but his goal was the giro this year and it is broken now! B rasmusen, i am not the only one who is breaking the forum rules. you don't have to talk about it then if you don't like it. i do not claim doper when evans does not win. it is not about evans but about dopers coming back to doing well.

 

[Zen Master]

Yes I am sad!

Sadness is not a problem, be a man and not a cry baby that's all. Thanks in advance

 

[saganftw]

love for evans and hatred towards LA is endless on this forum

great stage for arroyo today,he lost the jersey but showed a lot of courage down the mortirolo,i hope he can stay in top 3 in verona

basso did hell of a job,i was surprised nibali didnt help him much more

 

[slowoldman]

Been a great day to watch cycling for anyone who loves the sport. Absolutely amazed to see that folk on this forum have to finish it off with petty squabbles in well trodden arenas.

And thoroughly sick and tired off folk throwing "doper" accusations at the end of every high profile stage here their guy loses out. I guess I am just weird to be a cycling fan who is glad to see all these riders here, and who has thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle on offer. We'll know in time if they all cycled within the stated range. I assume they all were, those that have returned I almost trust more now, in a warped way. But until I get proof otherwise, they all are fighting on level footing now.

Most riders here did fantastic, everyone had to give it their all at one point or anothere, known weaknesses showed, and almost everyone truly shined at differents parts of the finale. Wow.

And all were obviously spent towards the end. NO-ONE sucked wheels. You don't get at the end of stage 19 by not riding hard yourself.

Racing as it should be. As I said, I love this sport.

Well said.

 

[davis_123]

Get a grip.

This is not the Clinic! Go there

Why? Because I have the balls to come on here and have an opinion against doping?

FYI I use to admire Ullrich and cheer for him at the TDF, when he was found out as a cheat I was ashamed at myself for supporting him, the same would happen if Evans tested positive.

To see people openly supporting riders like Basso and Vino who have been found guilty of doping digusts me, its worse then turning a blind eye to someone getting mugged or attacked.

Some of you people are pathetic, the drug culture in the sport is caused by the people supporting those that do it, if they were not supported and given proper bans the doping would drastically decrease.

I don't care who it is, be it Evans, Basso, Contador, etc.. If you get caught doping you should be ****ed off out of the sport forever and fined 5 years salary.

You people on here attack me for it, I say your all just spineless cowards who don't have the balls to stand up for anything.

 

[Zoncolan]

What is Evans' advantage for the points jersey? That would not be a bad thing to walk away with (along with an awesome win on the strade bianche stage).

I think he should have it in the bag. He'll probably get some points in the finall TT as well. More than Basso and Nibali one would expect, unless he is really spent.
I feel bad for him. Sure he got the Fleche, but sacrificed his Giro. Change of team and still no support from teammates. A minute and a half lost to Liquigas in the TTT.
IMO, he should skip the Tour and rest and give it a go at the Vuelta. No way the team management will let that happen though.
It's a shame that a Savoldelli or a Di Luca or Valverde all have at least one GT to their name and Evans doesn't. He's a better GT rider than those three.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I learned the hard way a couple of nights ago the best thing to do is to shut up and pretend you agree with everything regadless

+1
cycling is good and clean. we have no problem. we don't like lance getting away with doping but get angry when others make similar comments about other riders.

 

[slowoldman]

Why? Because I have the balls to come on here and have an opinion against doping?

No. Because the clinic is the place to discuss doping. This part of the forum is to discuss racing.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

No. Because the clinic is the place to discuss doping. This part of the forum is to discuss racing.

This. Obligatory letters to fill up useless space

 

[JA.Tri]

Francois...couldn't agree more!!

+1 cogent thoughts well conveyed

 

[The Sheep]

No. Because the clinic is the place to discuss doping. This part of the forum is to discuss racing.

He's a bit slow I think

 

[sportzchick]

Been a great day to watch cycling for anyone who loves the sport. Absolutely amazed to see that folk on this forum have to finish it off with petty squabbles in well trodden arenas.

And thoroughly sick and tired off folk throwing "doper" accusations at the end of every high profile stage here their guy loses out. I guess I am just weird to be a cycling fan who is glad to see all these riders here, and who has thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle on offer. We'll know in time if they all cycled within the stated range. I assume they all were, those that have returned I almost trust more now, in a warped way. But until I get proof otherwise, they all are fighting on level footing now.

Most riders here did fantastic, everyone had to give it their all at one point or anothere, known weaknesses showed, and almost everyone truly shined at differents parts of the finale. Wow.

And all were obviously spent towards the end. NO-ONE sucked wheels. You don't get at the end of stage 19 by not riding hard yourself.

Racing as it should be. As I said, I love this sport.

i think thats well said - and I willl agree with that when the anger/fustration/grumpyness over the result & sleep deprevation moves on

you think we'd be use to it by now

 

[Moondance]

Why? Because I have the balls to come on here and have an opinion against doping?

FYI I use to admire Ullrich and cheer for him at the TDF, when he was found out as a cheat I was ashamed at myself for supporting him, the same would happen if Evans tested positive.

To see people openly supporting riders like Basso and Vino who have been found guilty of doping digusts me, its worse then turning a blind eye to someone getting mugged or attacked.

Some of you people are pathetic, the drug culture in the sport is caused by the people supporting those that do it, if they were not supported and given proper bans the doping would drastically decrease.

I don't care who it is, be it Evans, Basso, Contador, etc.. If you get caught doping you should be ****ed off out of the sport forever and fined 5 years salary.

You people on here attack me for it, I say your all just spineless cowards who don't have the balls to stand up for anything.

This is the issue:


" Professional road racing [where we are now]
A place to discuss all things related to current professional road races. Here, you can also touch on the latest news relating to professional road racing. A doping discussion free forum."



" The Clinic
The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures."



I have no problem with what you're saying. NONE at all. It just isn't the right place, and there is no reason to get hostile when people are trying to point out the forum rules.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/index.php

 

[Wallace]

I know this would would make more work for the moderators, who already have enough to do, but could there be an automatic ban for people who post doping accusations in the race threads? It wouldn't have to be immediate, but if would be good if something could be done to prevent those clowns from derailing all the race discussions. DPF used to give an automatic two month suspension to people who couldn't keep the drug talk separate from the race talk. It made the race discussions a lot more civil and actually focused on tactics and what the riders did on the road.

 

[zapata]

Been a great day to watch cycling for anyone who loves the sport. Absolutely amazed to see that folk on this forum have to finish it off with petty squabbles in well trodden arenas.

And thoroughly sick and tired off folk throwing "doper" accusations at the end of every high profile stage here their guy loses out. I guess I am just weird to be a cycling fan who is glad to see all these riders here, and who has thoroughly enjoyed the spectacle on offer. We'll know in time if they all cycled within the stated range. I assume they all were, those that have returned I almost trust more now, in a warped way. But until I get proof otherwise, they all are fighting on level footing now.

Most riders here did fantastic, everyone had to give it their all at one point or anothere, known weaknesses showed, and almost everyone truly shined at differents parts of the finale. Wow.

And all were obviously spent towards the end. NO-ONE sucked wheels. You don't get at the end of stage 19 by not riding hard yourself.

Racing as it should be. As I said, I love this sport.

well said. agree on all points.