davis_123 said:
Could script it in the background outside of VBulletin, but no, probably not going to happen.
Still betting we won't be seeing much more of you until you get another IP address and user name though.
Bag_O_Wallet said:
Cunego has done what besides that 2004 giro win? Clearly something was different about him then.
Paolo on DC and being an Italian is a shock though, national loyalty is a blessing though.
BroDeal said:
Exactly, and Evans team IS the reason why he is not on the podium currently this race. He has had ZERO support on the big climbs when he has needed it, losing time on the Zoncolan and here today specifically because he had to work harder than Basso/Nibali/Scarponi before the last climbs , zero support in the TTT losing 1.5 mins to Liquigas (the same time as between him and Nibali), etc.
The problem with Evans missing the TDF is thereare 2 very annoyed Pro Conti tours doing about the same as BMC on points (ignoring the Classics where they weren't selected because BMC were), and BMC have been picked for the TDF 100% because Evans is on that team. If he was to turn up, and the not be top-10 competitive due to this race's efforts (think Menchov last year) then these teams would (justly) be annoyed; but BMC *know* that Evans wasn't to turn up at all, then there would be massive protests about them being at the Tour (possibly even having them replaced with Vac), especially as they would not have a single GC contender, sprinter OR breakaway guy (unlike, say, Vac, who have 2 good sprineters, and 2 good breakaway specialists). So, Evans will *have* to try at least in the tour early on, just to save his team's face with the UCI/ASO, and then why would the Vuelta want to invite his team if he a) won't be on top form, and b) won't necesarily be trying his hardest as the UCI World Champs clash with the end of the race in Aus, and there is *no way in hell* Evans will want to jeopardise even the remotest of chances in doing well in that, especially as the race is in Australia and will probably therefore suit him.
dsut4392 said:Could script it in the background outside of VBulletin, but no, probably not going to happen.
Still betting we won't be seeing much more of you until you get another IP address and user name though.
Another IP address and email takes less then a minute, I won't come on here for the TDF though no point when i can watch the race rather then wait for text updates.
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Evans's team cost him the Giro in the first week, never mind the last.
Had he not been chasing down gaps on the flat, i.e. had some team mates who could be relied upon at the front, not the back of the peloton, he may not have run out of gas, today.
He'll be in a solitary hell, tomorrow.
Better news for the team.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2010/20100528_142545_fin-du-purgatoire-pour-ballan.html
Had he not been chasing down gaps on the flat, i.e. had some team mates who could be relied upon at the front, not the back of the peloton, he may not have run out of gas, today.
He'll be in a solitary hell, tomorrow.
Better news for the team.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2010/20100528_142545_fin-du-purgatoire-pour-ballan.html
davis_123 said:
You do know you can watch the Giro on the web just as easily as you would be able to watch the TDF? Also, this (the FORUM) is NOT where you have come for text updates, that is not the point of it. This is the place to DISCUSS the current races (and professional road cycling in general, with the Clinic for discussions regarding doping, be it amateur or professional). If you think the only point of coming onto a discussion forum is to wait for text updates on a different site (or domain in the site) then you probably aren't a cycling fan tbh
ScottyMuser said:
When your speed capped which I have been for the past week you can't watch vids and time gaps are 99% of the time on here faster the susan posts them.
*edit* There is no other reason to come on here, If I wanted to have an intelligent conversation about cycling I wouldn't come on here. That would be like talking to collingwood supporters about footy (No offense ACF)
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If you think a poster is posting inappropriately, by all means, point it out to them.
If they continue, or start to add insults to posters here, report them. There is no point arguing with these folk. They just proved they are not operation "within reason" or have "respect for fellow posters".
No point arguing, even to prove you are right. Which you almost certainly are. And we all know it. Just don't keep giving these folk oxygen to come back to, on and on. Folk that even admit they know the rules and just say to hell with that, they can't be kicked quick enough of the forum, imo.
DO NOT QUOTE THEM.
The volunteers here who are spending far more time of their racing day on moderation already, and will only have to do more work once they come in if you replicate the offending post(er). The chances are that they will have to amend original posts and quotes now.
And if you have half a brain, don't egg them on with posts, even if you agree with their content, let alone in giant font sizes. All of us that hang out regularly on tehse stage threads know that regardless of what we think about doping, this ain't the place to discuss it. Keep slipping it in with insinuations ad nauseum, or egg on those that come in and transgress well known forum rules, and you stop being the valued poster you think you are, and become as bad as the troll. There and then.
Another great racing day ahead tomorrow. I hope the thread can be a superb til well beyond the finish line, like this one was great right up until the finale, when people started to vent private frustrations in various inappropriate ways (for this thread on this forum).
It's pathetic that a great race day can't result in a great forum thread. Hope it can tomorrow, it would make a great experience even better instead of souring it. I come here to share my enthusiasm.
Most of you get it and seem to get the finer inner workings about the sport much better than those who feel they have opinions too important not to hare, and that we all should just acknowledge. It's because of you why I keep coming back and suffer the fools amongst us.
Thanks. But please stop quoting the "waste of forum spaces" amongst us.
If they continue, or start to add insults to posters here, report them. There is no point arguing with these folk. They just proved they are not operation "within reason" or have "respect for fellow posters".
No point arguing, even to prove you are right. Which you almost certainly are. And we all know it. Just don't keep giving these folk oxygen to come back to, on and on. Folk that even admit they know the rules and just say to hell with that, they can't be kicked quick enough of the forum, imo.
DO NOT QUOTE THEM.
The volunteers here who are spending far more time of their racing day on moderation already, and will only have to do more work once they come in if you replicate the offending post(er). The chances are that they will have to amend original posts and quotes now.
And if you have half a brain, don't egg them on with posts, even if you agree with their content, let alone in giant font sizes. All of us that hang out regularly on tehse stage threads know that regardless of what we think about doping, this ain't the place to discuss it. Keep slipping it in with insinuations ad nauseum, or egg on those that come in and transgress well known forum rules, and you stop being the valued poster you think you are, and become as bad as the troll. There and then.
Another great racing day ahead tomorrow. I hope the thread can be a superb til well beyond the finish line, like this one was great right up until the finale, when people started to vent private frustrations in various inappropriate ways (for this thread on this forum).
It's pathetic that a great race day can't result in a great forum thread. Hope it can tomorrow, it would make a great experience even better instead of souring it. I come here to share my enthusiasm.
Most of you get it and seem to get the finer inner workings about the sport much better than those who feel they have opinions too important not to hare, and that we all should just acknowledge. It's because of you why I keep coming back and suffer the fools amongst us.
Thanks. But please stop quoting the "waste of forum spaces" amongst us.
Just heard that Basso did the Mortirolo 8 seconds faster than he did it in 2006. Is anyone able to confirm that? Thanks in advance.
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Liquigas is the strongest team in the race and road like Masters of the Universe. I mean Basso and Nibali engaging Scarponi to put 2 minutes on Arroyo and Co. in the last 10k. And the others, 5 against 3, ran out of gas!
It's like going to the University of Cycling and being taught by real professors
It's like going to the University of Cycling and being taught by real professors
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davis_123 said:
Then I for one think you should be banned. Immediately. If you can't follow the rules, be that rules of this forum or elsewhere, there should be a punishment for the infraction. Willfully disregarding the forum rules, after being reminding countless times, warrants permanent banning IMO.
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davis_123 said:
I don't agree with you at all. Most people here want a clean sport, but we also want a place to simply discuss the racing. You weren't here a year ago. It was miserable. Virtually every single thread became about doping. All positivity was sucked out of every discussion. Every single race win or good performance, no matter by who, was followed by BigBoat or someone else explaining exactly what "technique" was used for their performance. The negativity was overwhelming.
I'm certainly not saying we should turn a blind eye - everyone here is far too jaded for that. Most people here understand exactly what went on in the past and what is still going on now. The thing is, we still love the sport and want to be able to have a positive place to go and be able to share that with like-minded people. Look at the Clinic. It gets tons of action. CN is not sending the message that it's ok with doping.
Bailey said:
Not sure, although considering this year Basso has THE strongest pro team dragging him up half of the way, it wouldn't surprise me, and in no way does it indicate anything dodgy IMO. LG are simply phenomenal, the amount of pain Smzyd for instance can put on the peloton is incredible. Nibali and Scarponi did it in the same time as him (actually, for Scarponi, probably quicker as Basso was at the front of the peloton, whereas Scarponi had to come from mid way around lots of people) as well don't forget. And Nibali isn't the absolute best on big climbs (see zoncolan where he got dropped pretty quickly and finished just ahead of Pionotti and Martin), so it just shows how much of that was due to LG
A lot of the European's here seem surprised at the lack of sportsmanship being displayed by the Australians on this board...
see: Trever Chappell Underarm Delivery
Just joking my fellow Australasians.
Anyway moving on...
I think Cadel only has himself to blame for not winning a GT. He is consistantly weak in the third week of GTs.
'07 TDF Lost time in the last few mountain stages then took nothing back in the final TT.
'08 TDF 2 Lost time to Sastre on Le Alpe D'Huez then took nothing back in the final TT.
'09 TDF Completely blew up in the final week after never looking like getting it done.
'10 Giro Has lost time on the last two peaks would have lost time tomorrow if the race wasn't effectively finished today. And will not gain anything back in the final TT and wouldn't have regardless.
Simply not good enough in the third week of GTs. That is the sole reason he has not won a GT.
Personally I support Evans. I wish he would have signed for a team that was capable of supporting him through a GT. I think being an Australian has been a disadvantage in this respect since a lot of teams would rather have a leader from the same country as their team's sponser than a foreigner. Nothing against the European teams, it makes perfect sense from a team's perspective, unfortunately for Cadel.
see: Trever Chappell Underarm Delivery
Just joking my fellow Australasians.Anyway moving on...
I think Cadel only has himself to blame for not winning a GT. He is consistantly weak in the third week of GTs.
'07 TDF Lost time in the last few mountain stages then took nothing back in the final TT.
'08 TDF 2 Lost time to Sastre on Le Alpe D'Huez then took nothing back in the final TT.
'09 TDF Completely blew up in the final week after never looking like getting it done.
'10 Giro Has lost time on the last two peaks would have lost time tomorrow if the race wasn't effectively finished today. And will not gain anything back in the final TT and wouldn't have regardless.
Simply not good enough in the third week of GTs. That is the sole reason he has not won a GT.
Personally I support Evans. I wish he would have signed for a team that was capable of supporting him through a GT. I think being an Australian has been a disadvantage in this respect since a lot of teams would rather have a leader from the same country as their team's sponser than a foreigner. Nothing against the European teams, it makes perfect sense from a team's perspective, unfortunately for Cadel.
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UlleGigo said:A lot of the European's here seem surprised at the lack of sportsmanship being displayed by the Australians on this board...
see: Trever Chappell Underarm Delivery
Anyway moving on...
I think Cadel only has himself to blame for not winning a GT. He is consistantly weak in the third week of GTs.
'07 TDF Lost time in the last few mountain stages then took nothing back in the final TT.
'08 TDF 2 Lost time to Sastre on Le Alpe D'Huez then took nothing back in the final TT.
'09 TDF Completely blew up in the final week after never looking like getting it done.
'10 Giro Has lost time on the last two peaks would have lost time tomorrow if the race wasn't effectively finished today. And will not gain anything back in the final TT and wouldn't have regardless.
Simply not good enough in the third week of GTs. That is the sole reason he has not won a GT.
Personally I support Evans. I wish he would have signed for a team that was capable of supporting him through a GT. I think being an Australian has been a disadvantage in this respect since a lot of teams would rather have a leader from the same country as their team's sponser than a foreigner. Nothing against the European teams, it makes perfect sense from a team's perspective, unfortunately for Cadel.
wow, you're really hitting the nail on the head aren't you how's your thumb?
UlleGigo said:
Ah, that explains why Contador rides for a Kazaks team, Schleck for a danish, Sastre for a Swiss(?), Menchov for a Belgian
Its an interesting perspective, but I think its more that he bhas always 1) not been the most exciting racer, which could count against him as he rarely attacks (never until last year) zas then the sponsors wouldn't get their name anywhere, and 2) has NEVER been the best GC rider (or even in the top 3 IMO). Also, he has a reputation (possibly justly) as a whiner recently, which puts teams off if he would come in and disrupt their team
UlleGigo said:A lot of the European's here seem surprised at the lack of sportsmanship being displayed by the Australians on this board...
see: Trever Chappell Underarm Delivery
Anyway moving on...
I think Cadel only has himself to blame for not winning a GT. He is consistantly weak in the third week of GTs.
'07 TDF Lost time in the last few mountain stages then took nothing back in the final TT.
'08 TDF 2 Lost time to Sastre on Le Alpe D'Huez then took nothing back in the final TT.
'09 TDF Completely blew up in the final week after never looking like getting it done.
'10 Giro Has lost time on the last two peaks would have lost time tomorrow if the race wasn't effectively finished today. And will not gain anything back in the final TT and wouldn't have regardless.
Simply not good enough in the third week of GTs. That is the sole reason he has not won a GT.
Personally I support Evans. I wish he would have signed for a team that was capable of supporting him through a GT. I think being an Australian has been a disadvantage in this respect since a lot of teams would rather have a leader from the same country as their team's sponser than a foreigner. Nothing against the European teams, it makes perfect sense from a team's perspective, unfortunately for Cadel.
He gained loads of time on Contador... Just not quite enough.
On the other hand he did nearly lose it to Leipheimer though... So I guess that balances out.
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