Giro d'Italia: Stage 2: Alba - Parma 244km

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Germany keep turning out top sprinters.

172 CIOLEK Gerald GER QST 5:46:10 0:30

Now that is sad.
Should never have left the Highroad express.
 
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profff said:
do not worry, i understand and i don't get offended easily

i prefer cav to peta, but i do not like people asking DSQ without reason
they remind me of soccer players asking yellow cards to the referee.

today i saw a sprint as hundreds in the past
cav , in processo alla tappa , on italian tv tried to keep the point, even if he is not speaking good italian
it looked like he wanted to refer to DSQ he had in the past for similar reason, but i cannot remember.
cipo and silvio martinello both judged the sprint clean: cav was not at the side of petacchi, and his wheels was always away of peta's posterior wheel when alejet changed direction.

i agree with them.
and tomorrow with madonna delle grazie few km from the finish line in rapallo seems to favourish again petacchi, because he is one of the sprinter passing better the hills.

The Madonna delle Grazie actually looks like quite a decent hill. And it's only 9km away from the finish line. It's short but it has a 10% max. gradient and after that a kilometer of about 7%. Also the riders will have an 20km uphill ride a bit before in the Stage. In addition to that the're a litte 1k kick which has 500m of 8,4% uphill. So it shouldn't be surprising if some guy's attacked or if a team tried to make the race hard to get rid of guy's like Cav and the Brisbane-Terror ( ;) ).
 
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djlovesyou said:
Also history shows that every time it happens I'll laugh.

Not that I'm a huge HTC hater, Cav throwing his toys out just entertains me.

It seems he's calmed down now. Cav's twitter


"Phew, calmed down now. I'm always disqualified for every little move, but this is not Petacchi's fault. It's the fault of the jury or......teams who have a prejudice against me. So I'm sorry to Pettachi for taking my frustration out on him. What happened today is sprinting.......and that's why I love it. Its about tactics aswell as power. Lets bring back oldschool sprinting! Congrats to a great champion today.And amazing ride by @htchighroad today again. Absolute legends. So happy to keep the Maglia Rosa in the team. Love you guys."
 
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Boardslide said:
It seems he's calmed down now. Cav's twitter


"Phew, calmed down now. I'm always disqualified for every little move, but this is not Petacchi's fault. It's the fault of the jury or......teams who have a prejudice against me. So I'm sorry to Pettachi for taking my frustration out on him. What happened today is sprinting.......and that's why I love it. Its about tactics aswell as power. Lets bring back oldschool sprinting! Congrats to a great champion today.And amazing ride by @htchighroad today again. Absolute legends. So happy to keep the Maglia Rosa in the team. Love you guys."

Somehow it's a little difficult for me to imagine those words coming out of Cavendish's mouth... ;)
 
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spalco said:
Somehow it's a little difficult for me to imagine those words coming out of Cavendish's mouth... ;)

Believe it & this is the following one

"Bet you all didnt expect that tweet! Good job i didnt have my @htc at the finish. will say i'm ****ed at commisaires who hate because i win."
 
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Boardslide said:
Believe it & this is the following one

"Bet you all didnt expect that tweet! Good job i didnt have my @htc at the finish. will say i'm ****ed at commisaires who hate because i win."

This still doesn't make me believe Cav said the previous...sounds like some damage control going on....
 
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palmerq said:
hmm cavendish is a bit of a bad loser...

winners usually are bad losers. . . .

and cav usually wins so . . .

still it was a smart sprint by ale jet. when you can't outrun them just outsmart them. when he retires ale jet can make some money by making a book on how to beat faster guys on a sprint :p
 
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Fun finish, but Cav really does need to stop whining so much and just let his sprint do the talking. Must be the "Little Man" complex that he has always been subject to.
Its sprinting, it will always be dodgy. He of all people should realize it.
 
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No way the commisaires would've DQ'd Cav today if he'd been in Petacchi's shoes. Don't know why people keep saying that.
 
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...looked like sprinting to me, not always the perfect line. Cav is not accepting when someone beats him squarely.
good ride by Ale J :)
 
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goggalor said:
No way the commisaires would've DQ'd Cav today if he'd been in Petacchi's shoes. Don't know why people keep saying that.

because they are out to get him, or so I read :S
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
This still doesn't make me believe Cav said the previous...sounds like some damage control going on....

What damage?

Pettachi swerved then played all ingenue. Cav complained, then calmed down.

Anyone who believes Cav wouldn't be disqualified for that needs to put down the kool-aid. Fortunately he normally wins through physical ability.
 
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Cav also isn't as likely to have played the percentages and boxed in the opponent only enough to make them check but not enough to block. Mind you, Cav isn't really used to people being able to get up alongside him, which means he can usually pick whatever line he wants. When people have been able to get up there with him, it's been really messy.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
What damage?

Pettachi swerved then played all ingenue. Cav complained, then calmed down.

Anyone who believes Cav wouldn't be disqualified for that needs to put down the kool-aid. Fortunately he normally wins through physical ability.
I honestly don't think he would've been.
 
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Moondance said:
Okay, so live tv coverage will begin at 14:30, will finish at approx. 17:30.

It's hard to believe that I'm actually going to spend a very nice sunday afternoon watching a solitary man ride his bike for about 120 flat kilometers, only to be be caught, and then witness 10 mins of moderately exciting riding. All the while I will be listening to two Belgians yak about a bunch of meaningless rubbish.

I just might be insane.

You're mad. With this weather I spent the day outside drinking beers with a friend of mine. F*ck flat stages in the Giro with this kind of weather.
 
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Petacchi changed his line very often but I don't see how he hindered Cavendish, he was never blocking him off.
Cavendish waited too long to sart his sprint.
 
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profff said:
do not worry, i understand and i don't get offended easily

i prefer cav to peta, but i do not like people asking DSQ without reason
they remind me of soccer players asking yellow cards to the referee.

today i saw a sprint as hundreds in the past
cav , in processo alla tappa , on italian tv tried to keep the point, even if he is not speaking good italian
it looked like he wanted to refer to DSQ he had in the past for similar reason, but i cannot remember.
cipo and silvio martinello both judged the sprint clean: cav was not at the side of petacchi, and his wheels was always away of peta's posterior wheel when alejet changed direction.

i agree with them.
and tomorrow with madonna delle grazie few km from the finish line in rapallo seems to favourish again petacchi, because he is one of the sprinter passing better the hills.

One interesting point about the processo alla tappa was Cav trying to explain his case, clearly uncomfortably before the Italians and in his inadequate italian, while the lady director and and interpreter, Alessandra De Steffano, didn't explain to the others correctly what Cav had actually said.

He said "but when I do that, I always get disqualified". Instead the others were told by the interpreter "but when others do that, they always get disqualified."

This fundamental distinction between "I" and "they", made the confusion even more confusing.

Doesn't change anything, however, the liberties with which sometimes the Italians report things is always circus like.

In any case, Ali-Jet is really fit right now and probably has lost some of his explosiveness due to much mountain riding on Etna before the Giro. This is why he especially needed to anticipate Cav, while his superior resistance and experience gave him the win. In a straight up sprint, Cav proabably would have beaten him though.

Tomorrow, with the tough lead-up to the finish, Petacchi is thus favored with his superior fitness and resistance.
 
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LOL at the Frodo supporters playing the xenophobia card. So the only reason why Petacchi's win was allowed to stand is because he and the commisaires are Italian.

Frodo needs to and his fanboys need to stop whining and making excuses everytime he loses.

And the Hobbit needs to stop thinking he's the victim given what he's got away with in the past.
 
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Mrs John Murphy said:
LOL at the Frodo supporters playing the xenophobia card. So the only reason why Petacchi's win was allowed to stand is because he and the commisaires are Italian.

Frodo needs to and his fanboys need to stop whining and making excuses everytime he loses.

And the Hobbit needs to stop thinking he's the victim given what he's got away with in the past.

Clearly you need to get yourself a new pair of glasses. :)
 
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Andy99 said:
Clearly you need to get yourself a new pair of glasses. :)

Because he believes Cav looks like Frodo, because he saw a diffrent sprint than you did, or because he saw xenophobic explanations for Ale-Jet not beiing disqulified? Like "this is Italy". I'd agree on the first one.