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I am not negative, but when someone says something ridiculous I am going to call them out on it.
Saying that Contador didn't benefit from cooperation with Astana today is ridiculous
Saying that Contador didn't benefit from cooperation with Astana today is ridiculous
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Did i say that? Look up my quote again.
Don't misquote people, it's just sad.
damian13ster said:
Did i say that? Look up my quote again.
Don't misquote people, it's just sad.
Yeah, I bolded your quote. It clearly states "yea i guess i can do some pulls to help you, doesn't matter for me either way that much".
This is not true. It matters a lot, for the reasons I explained. Having pink after TT is huge, and Uran was one of the 2 biggest (if not the biggest) threat to take it from Contador during TT.
So getting rid of him matters. So he was not 'doing some pulls to help you', he was doing them because it benefits him.
This is not true. It matters a lot, for the reasons I explained. Having pink after TT is huge, and Uran was one of the 2 biggest (if not the biggest) threat to take it from Contador during TT.
So getting rid of him matters. So he was not 'doing some pulls to help you', he was doing them because it benefits him.
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It doesn't matter that much for Contador. That's what i said cause uran is a scrub compared to contador in the mountains.
How is having pink after itt huge? Contador will destroy him in week 3, when has uran proven to be remotely close to contador in the mountains?
You don't know much of cycling, don't act like you do.
damian13ster said:
It doesn't matter that much for Contador. That's what i said cause uran is a scrub compared to contador in the mountains.
How is having pink after itt huge? Contador will destroy him in week 3, when has uran proven to be remotely close to contador in the mountains?
You don't know much of cycling, don't act like you do.
It is big because then all Contador has to do is wheelsuck for the rest of the race and preserve strength for Tour......
He can't do that if he is behind Porte or Uran in GC after TT, and if Uran recovers from sickness.
He can't do that if he is behind Porte or Uran in GC after TT, and if Uran recovers from sickness.
LaFlorecita said:
Porte's accelerations are really sub-par. Don't believe he can gain time in the mountains unless he will ride everyone off his wheel with steady pace. He really has all the eggs in one basket (TT)
Porte will not overtake Contador on GC in the TT, you heard it here first (well not reallyMore Strides than Rides said:
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LaFlorecita said:Porte will not overtake Contador on GC in the TT, you heard it here first (well not reallyMore Strides than Rides said:
The TT is so long that I think the outcome is unpredictable. Could be some huge time gaps though. I'm with you that Porte doesn't seem too capable to take back more than 20 sec on Contador but on the other hand he is riding like he is just waiting for the TT to smash it.
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It doesn't matter to Contador that much, cause he was 1.24 on Uran before this stage, he'll hardly loose that to Uran in this form, unlike Aru who is bad TT-er. That's why Aru and Landa had to pull, and that's why Aru asked Contador to pull, not the other way around. Secondly if he loose that time in ITT, he knows he will gain that back whenever and wherever he wants, so no it was not such a big deal for him.
damian13ster said:
It doesn't matter to Contador that much, cause he was 1.24 on Uran before this stage, he'll hardly loose that to Uran in this form, unlike Aru who is bad TT-er. That's why Aru and Landa had to pull, and that's why Aru asked Contador to pull, not the other way around. Secondly if he loose that time in ITT, he knows he will gain that back whenever and wherever he wants, so no it was not such a big deal for him.
Seems like this stage wasn't worth much more than the 4 min youtube recap. Bein will have a highlight show on later on directv. Skimming through the last 100 posts or so and reading the sniping back and forth has been entertaining, though!
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Who said that besides the people 'defending aru'?
Give me the quotes of people actually saying that as an argument to defend Contador?
SafeBet said:
Who said that besides the people 'defending aru'?
Give me the quotes of people actually saying that as an argument to defend Contador?
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It was shaping up to have a lot of potential, but then a motorcycle crashed on a descent that apparently had gravel on it. When the commissaires neutralized the descent, it allowed the split peloton to re-form.
I'm curious as to how Contador would've held up if there hadn't been a neutralization, so Astana could just go for it when several Tinkoffs were dropped.
ggusta said:Seems like this stage wasn't worth much more than the 4 min youtube recap. Bein will have a highlight show on later on directv. Skimming through the last 100 posts or so and reading the sniping back and forth has been entertaining, though!
It was shaping up to have a lot of potential, but then a motorcycle crashed on a descent that apparently had gravel on it. When the commissaires neutralized the descent, it allowed the split peloton to re-form.
I'm curious as to how Contador would've held up if there hadn't been a neutralization, so Astana could just go for it when several Tinkoffs were dropped.
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Absolutely no doubt that the neutralization allowed dropped TS riders to return. It would have been a very exciting stage without that. But it happened so we'll never know.
Beech Mtn said:ggusta said:Seems like this stage wasn't worth much more than the 4 min youtube recap. Bein will have a highlight show on later on directv. Skimming through the last 100 posts or so and reading the sniping back and forth has been entertaining, though!
It was shaping up to have a lot of potential, but then a motorcycle crashed on a descent that apparently had gravel on it. When the commissaires neutralized the descent, it allowed the split peloton to re-form.
I'm curious as to how Contador would've held up if there hadn't been a neutralization, so Astana could just go for it when several Tinkoffs were dropped.
Absolutely no doubt that the neutralization allowed dropped TS riders to return. It would have been a very exciting stage without that. But it happened so we'll never know.
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You are obviously right. Contador said in Processo alla tappa that Uran was good yesterday and you have to put more time on it, becouse he has respect for all the rivals, and is a great rider and in an ITT like this if someone has not a good day can lose easy 2 minutes (I think that more) The same said Landa and Aru.
In the forums sometimes ridiculous become in the right think if lot of people think the same...
Landa is not very strong in the flat, so in that final part if only Landa work the second group could rejoin, so if Porte wanted Contador must work.
damian13ster said:
You are obviously right. Contador said in Processo alla tappa that Uran was good yesterday and you have to put more time on it, becouse he has respect for all the rivals, and is a great rider and in an ITT like this if someone has not a good day can lose easy 2 minutes (I think that more) The same said Landa and Aru.
In the forums sometimes ridiculous become in the right think if lot of people think the same...
Landa is not very strong in the flat, so in that final part if only Landa work the second group could rejoin, so if Porte wanted Contador must work.
Regarding the Conti-Aru discussion, for the life of me I can't understand why people always try to view these things through their own moral frameworks. Just appreciate the facts, that they worked together to distance Uran and that Conti was peeved that Aru subsequently sprinted at the line for his own reasons.
I love the fact that now we've got some feeling between the two (doesn't matter who is 'right' or 'wrong'), and that my viewing pleasure for the next 2 weeks is likely to be enhanced as a result.
I love the fact that now we've got some feeling between the two (doesn't matter who is 'right' or 'wrong'), and that my viewing pleasure for the next 2 weeks is likely to be enhanced as a result.
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