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Overall I like the route I suppose.Bit heavy on MTFs with PDBF, Rousses, Izoard, Peyragudes and Galibier (is it a summit finish though?). I hope Foix and Chambery are properly raced. That Biche, Colombier, Chat stage is...Whoa. But I wish we had a finish at Le Bourget.

ASO keeps going for new stuff along the classics. Good on them I say. We had too many years of the same stuff. Races like the Vuelta are much more flexible and better for it (at least they vary their muritos every now and then!).
 
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MikeTichondrius said:
Overall I like the route I suppose.Bit heavy on MTFs with PDBF, Rousses, Izoard, Peyragudes and Galibier (is it a summit finish though?). I hope Foix and Chambery are properly raced. That Biche, Colombier, Chat stage is...Whoa. But I wish we had a finish at Le Bourget.

ASO keeps going for new stuff along the classics. Good on them I say. We had too many years of the same stuff. Races like the Vuelta are much more flexible and better for it (at least they vary their muritos every now and then!).
The Galibier stage finish in Serre-Chevalier. It's a descent finish.

Les Rousses is not really a MTF.
 
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23km of TT is a travesty.

Normally I'm not a Froome fan at all, but hopefully Froome or somebody else with a good TT wins, so we at least get a worthy winner who would've also won on a real route.
 
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I blame Contador and Nibali for those super short stages.

The organisers are idiots if they think there are other guys who will just go from the start and don't give a ***
 
The best course Quintana might see for quite a while or the most suitable for him. If he turns up in better shape than the 2016 Tour he will have no excuses. Bardet won't mind it either. Froome and Porte would have preferred more TT kms.
 
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
23km of TT is a travesty.

Normally I'm not a Froome fan at all, but hopefully Froome or somebody else with a good TT wins, so we at least get a worthy winner who would've also won on a real route.
I honestly thought that they'd give up on Quintana after this year, and do a more balanced 80's style route to give the likes of Dumoulin and Pinot a shout. Instead they've gift-wrapped another route with a bow on top for Quintana, although he'd prefer fewer flat stages. They have added some steeper finishes, which is important - it's one of the reasons the Vuelta is better at creating gaps (as well as the weaker teams). Riders, and especially domestiques, are in way too good shape these days. The steady 7% Alpine slogs can't hack it anymore, they're too easy to draft. But yeah the race is more boring with so little TT - there won't be the resulting gaps to force the pure climbers to go from further out.
 

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