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luckyboy said:Think it'd be better if mtf's got more points than they do.
If the jersey is meant to be for the most consistent finisher, why are the riders who consistently finish high up on mountain stages penalised?
kurtinsc said:Other team's do have the option of bringing riders for a train rather then mountain domestiques. I think Garmin had a train nearly the equal of Columbia's... before their injuries and issues. I think Milram's train is pretty solid too... but their sprinter isn't up to par.
Marva32 said:The Green Jersey is for the 'POINTS competition' established by the TDF with its own rules. It is designed to reward the person who is most consistently at the front at certain designated points along the route. It is not a designated sprinters jersey, nor is it the jersey for the most consistent finisher. In order to have the Green Jersey, or any other special jersey competition, the TDF has to find a sponsor who is interested in paying money for advertising and supporting that competition. Years ago the TDF had more jerseys, and decided that having too many jerseys reduced their marketability. Now, the Tour has limited the jerseys, but has to make it so that there is something competitive for the sponsor. In this case, I would have to say that the sponsor of the Green Jersey has to be happy, last year was a closely contested competition, and so is this. People may not like the way the competition is designed, but the fact is, the current points system is one which is allowing for a close race with excitement and people who are paying attention to what is going on. At the other extreme is the Giro which has so many different competitions that it is difficult to remember what each one is for. The Tour is keeping things easier to follow, and creating more excitement.
El Pistolero said:The green jersey is a sprinters jersey. Why else would someone receive less points on mountain stages? You know, the stages that are way harder to win than flat stages?
Dekker_Tifosi said:If it is meant for the most consistent finisher than it's still not doing it's job right, because Hushovd is not even that...
But I guess I am alone in my dislike for this competition at the moment.
simoni said:The best sprinter is already rewarded in the form of stage wins.
you can win yellow through not winning stages - why not green?
kurtinsc said:Intermediate sprints don't impact yellow anymore though. While I have no problem with it being as it is... if it really were for the best finish position, you wouldn't have the intermediates. If you take those out of the point totals, I think it would be:
Pettachi - 181
Thor - 171
Cav - 162
Tyler'sTwin said:Give Thor his 20+ points from stage 2 and he's still ahead. And why shouldn't the IM sprints count? You may want this to be a "best bunch sprinter" competition but the reality is that it's not all about the bunch sprints. If Hushovd wins the jersey than he'll fully deserve it for picking up the most points thanks to not being as one dimensional as the other sprinters.
Petacchi winning the green would (will) be yet another farce...
kurtinsc said:Other team's do have the option of bringing riders for a train rather then mountain domestiques. I think Garmin had a train nearly the equal of Columbia's... before their injuries and issues. I think Milram's train is pretty solid too... but their sprinter isn't up to par.
asdfgh101 said:Thor gained 6 points today for a very determined ride. An intermediate sprint is also worth 6 points, yet amongst break-aways they are rarely contested, they discriminate against riders high in GC (for example Farrar after a good prologue may not be allowed to get into a break on an early medium mountain/hilly stage by team of yellow jersey) and against teams who work all out for flat stage wins (and for people criticising trains i hope that you realise the importance of a high pace and a strung out bunch late in flat stages).
Dekker_Tifosi said:If it is meant for the most consistent finisher than it's still not doing it's job right, because Hushovd is not even that...
But I guess I am alone in my dislike for this competition at the moment.