Has not been strong this spring season. Does not deserve the 3 million salary Bahrain apparently is willing to pay for him.
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Almost all of GVA’s important wins came in one nine month period and he’s about to turn 33. I don’t doubt that he’s one of the strongest one day racers, but I’m not sure that taking the long view is as clearly to his advantage as you seem to think.
El Pistolero said:
Almost all of GVA’s important wins came in one nine month period and he’s about to turn 33. I don’t doubt that he’s one of the strongest one day racers, but I’m not sure that taking the long view is as clearly to his advantage as you seem to think.
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I'm not sure there are very many who are worth that much. However, that's not up to us, that's up to the teams.
Bardamu said:
I'm not sure there are very many who are worth that much. However, that's not up to us, that's up to the teams.
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Yes it would be ill-advised to look only at what he achieved last spring, especially since he will be 34 next season.
Bardamu said:
Yes it would be ill-advised to look only at what he achieved last spring, especially since he will be 34 next season.
Always up there with the best but doesn't have the punch from 2016 and 2017 to make the difference. His sprint after a hard race is still aces though.
Otoh, his attitude after the race was shocking. He said it was up to QS, not him, to go after Sagan, which is utter BS obviously. Ironically it were his two successive attacks that strung the peloton and caught QS out of position, thus opening up the winning move from Sagan.
Otoh, his attitude after the race was shocking. He said it was up to QS, not him, to go after Sagan, which is utter BS obviously. Ironically it were his two successive attacks that strung the peloton and caught QS out of position, thus opening up the winning move from Sagan.
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That + claiming he was "one of the strongest" again, although I haven't seen him doing a lot to catch Sagan.
Dear Greg, if you're so strong as you say you are, then do your ****** job. Don't hide behind QS - their season is more than successful already, yours isn't.
Flamin said:
That + claiming he was "one of the strongest" again, although I haven't seen him doing a lot to catch Sagan.
Dear Greg, if you're so strong as you say you are, then do your ****** job. Don't hide behind QS - their season is more than successful already, yours isn't.
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No, which makes Badamu's statement all the more true. He's 33, nearly 34. He isn't Valverde either, I doubt he can keep improving for another 4 years. WVA makes more senseEl Pistolero said:
Greg always looked like he was about to burst everytime Terpstra went. So he definitely wasn't one of the strongest. Stuyven and Vanmarcke looked more at ease than him. And I think Van Aert was better too until he had bad luck
While he was the one at the front of the bunch when Sagan went (like Sagan was when Terpstra went in Ronde), he was probably a bit gassed after his second (and quite good) attack. Sagan's attack wasn't explosive though, and van Aert was probably gassed as well, so yes, Greg should have gone with him immediately; but I think a moment of hesitation is understandable, especially if he wasn't at his best.
Note that Burghardt was on the wheel of van Aert.
Note that Burghardt was on the wheel of van Aert.
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Everyone in that group was on the limit when Terpstra put the hammer down. And Greg almost always looks like he's suffering.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Everyone in that group was on the limit when Terpstra put the hammer down. And Greg almost always looks like he's suffering.
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Still, it didn’t look like there was an acceleration from Sagan, it looked like Greg was on his wheel, then moved to one side, and when Sagan looked back there was daylight on his wheel and no reason not to keep going.
And not a QS Jersey in sight.Netserk said:While he was the one at the front of the bunch when Sagan went (like Sagan was when Terpstra went in Ronde), he was probably a bit gassed after his second (and quite good) attack. Sagan's attack wasn't explosive though, and van Aert was probably gassed as well, so yes, Greg should have gone with him immediately; but I think a moment of hesitation is understandable, especially if he wasn't at his best.
Note that Burghardt was on the wheel of van Aert.
Still, it didn’t look like there was an acceleration from Sagan, it looked like Greg was on his wheel, then moved to one side, and when Sagan looked back there was daylight on his wheel and no reason not to keep going.
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Van Avermaet would be a good choice to accompany both Van Aert and Teuns at Bahrain, but he is not going to win many races in the future and he should realise that. He is not worth top pay anymore.Brullnux said:
I think it's early to sentence that is too old and he can't win anymore big races. There are a lot of riders that have delivered at 34/35 despite not being Valverde.
Maybe with the advancing of the age he should change a bit his main focus if he's losing in explosiviness.
Maybe with the advancing of the age he should change a bit his main focus if he's losing in explosiviness.
I don't think he did bad at all. He's just back to his usual level of performance after one incredible season.
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His last season is overrated anyway, lucked out in almost every race he won in the spring season. In the second part of the season he disappointed all the time but he just rode races for the WT-ranking.Screecher said:
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Maybe you should quit spreading this nonsense, you've made your (weak) point. It's becoming kind of pathetic to seize every single opportunity to downplay Greg's performances from last year.
Bardamu said:
Maybe you should quit spreading this nonsense, you've made your (weak) point. It's becoming kind of pathetic to seize every single opportunity to downplay Greg's performances from last year.
Besides, Greg had two amazing seasons, not one.
2016:
- Omloop het Nieuwsblad
- Tirreno-Adriatico (+ stage win)
- A stage win in the Tour de France
- Olympic Road Race (on a mountainous route no less)
- Grand Prix de Montreal
Do you know how many cyclists would kill to have such a palmares at the end of their career (let alone just in one season)? A lot of them.
2016:
- Omloop het Nieuwsblad
- Tirreno-Adriatico (+ stage win)
- A stage win in the Tour de France
- Olympic Road Race (on a mountainous route no less)
- Grand Prix de Montreal
Do you know how many cyclists would kill to have such a palmares at the end of their career (let alone just in one season)? A lot of them.
this year he's always complaining for some missing out the decisive move... can he stop that please it's getting annoying...
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