Gta v

[The Hitch]

yeah that is why i like fifa

every 2 months about 10 of my mates will come over and well have a massive tournament. We call if 'FIFA KING TOURNAMENT' - 2 groups everyone plays each other in the group, top 2 go to semis and so on. Then when the fifa king is crowned he will no doubt go on and brag on face book until the next tournament. Calling the losers peasants and what not. It is pretty epic.

Ill challenge you to an online game timmy

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

No worries , as long as I'm bayern I'm happy

 

[Thomsena]

Trailer is up!

And it looks like I got my country side back! Yay!

 

[The Hitch]

Its Los Angeles boys and girls.

A bit disapointed. It had to be Miami or LA really, not other major options, but I would rather they did Vice city first, and then saved for a big San Andreas.

Also seems to me to from the cars that its set in the present. Maybe in the 2000's.

Trailer is up!

And it looks like I got my country side back! Yay!

Im not so sure. I think its just Los Santos and a few suburbs. Outside the suburbs there will be some countryside but I doubt there will be any other cities out there as they just showed LA.

Whats interesting is the mountains. Maybe for once the mountains rather than water will act as the barrier.

Maybe in the next trailer we will see some other cities, or maybe rather than all in 1 like with San Andreas, they will release additional packs with the country beyond the mountains.

But atm it looks just like Los Santos to me.

Also they are still calling it GTA V and I wonder if that will still be the name once it comes out.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Wow, yes. California
From the beach to the mountains. Great.

Will be hard not to turn the steering wheel to the right @0:52, and looking forward to poison whole areas with the spray-plane

The voice - it sounds like a black dude ?

 

[Thomsena]

Something came in mind..

Are there any news regarding the release of PS4? An aprox deadline?

I mean, it would seem like odd timing to release this game just a few months before a release of a whole new console. I know the PS3 market would still be huge but it would definitely have decreased in the same time. The trailer is PS3 graphics and I'm sure it will be a PS3 release but the timing could be a bit tricky..?

 

[The Hitch]

Something came in mind..

Are there any news regarding the release of PS4? An aprox deadline?

I mean, it would seem like odd timing to release this game just a few months before a release of a whole new console. I know the PS3 market would still be huge but it would definitely have decreased in the same time. The trailer is PS3 graphics and I'm sure it will be a PS3 release but the timing could be a bit tricky..?

Well release date for the game hasnt been announced though a retailer says its coming out on November 23rd next year.

http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/xbox-360/gta-grand-theft-auto-v-5/10569985.html

But yeah, probably means PS4 will not come out for another year as I doubt they would release it right before the PS4 came out.

Hopefully they are working for a PS4 game already.

PS2 came out in what, 2001 was it? Then PS3 in 2007 I think so 6 years. Its been 4 since PS3 came out so maybe 1 or 2 more years.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Rumors are next generation wont come out for a few years yet (other then nintendo, which is attempting to utilize better graphics in the next one rather then the childish emphasis), the hardware avilable although more prettier wont make a huge difference. I'd expect a PS4 at earliest 2014, more likely 15-16.

Havne't seen the trailer yet, will have to got onto that when i get home.

 

[ramjambunath]

 

[El Pistolero]

Well that's a brave postulate...

'On 13 May 2008, Grand Theft Auto IV broke the Guinness World Records for "Highest grossing video game in 24 hours" and "Highest Revenue Generated by an Entertainment Product in 24 Hours". It sold 3.6 million copies on day one, which equalled roughly $310 million in revenue. '

You'd be surprised about how inept the mother company(Take-Two interactive) is.

Take for example the PS2 and PS3. Sony sells those things at a loss. They earn money from first-, second- and third party games. First-party games are games they make them self, second-party games are games made by other companies but published by Sony(or MS/Nintendo) and third-party games are games made other companies and published by them. You'd be surprised at how expensive it is to actually make a decent game. Take-two interactive is not doing so well at the moment. The money they earn from games like GTA is keeping them alive, but for how long?

 

[El Pistolero]

Rumors are next generation wont come out for a few years yet (other then nintendo, which is attempting to utilize better graphics in the next one rather then the childish emphasis), the hardware avilable although more prettier wont make a huge difference. I'd expect a PS4 at earliest 2014, more likely 15-16.

Havne't seen the trailer yet, will have to got onto that when i get home.

The Wii U is utilizing a totally new control system.

 

[El Pistolero]

Its Los Angeles boys and girls.

A bit disapointed. It had to be Miami or LA really, not other major options, but I would rather they did Vice city first, and then saved for a big San Andreas.

Also seems to me to from the cars that its set in the present. Maybe in the 2000's.



Im not so sure. I think its just Los Santos and a few suburbs. Outside the suburbs there will be some countryside but I doubt there will be any other cities out there as they just showed LA.

Whats interesting is the mountains. Maybe for once the mountains rather than water will act as the barrier.

Maybe in the next trailer we will see some other cities, or maybe rather than all in 1 like with San Andreas, they will release additional packs with the country beyond the mountains.

But atm it looks just like Los Santos to me.

Also they are still calling it GTA V and I wonder if that will still be the name once it comes out.

You know what would be cool? A major European city. The first GTA's took place in London iirc. Something like Rome would be bad ***. Mission: take out the biggest Mafia leader: Pope Benedict XVI

Or let the Giro d'Italia finish in GTA Rome and make some missions on it like drug dealing or rigging the competition

A good inspiration would be the Godfather III, although that one mainly takes place in Sicily.

 

[The Hitch]

The first Gta did not take place in london.

Also having it in Europe wouldnt work. Their main target is American teens. Its not worth doing an entire game in Italian.

 

[El Pistolero]

The first Gta did not take place in london.

Also having it in Europe wouldnt work. Their main target is American teens. Its not worth doing an entire game in Italian.

Assassin's creed takes place in Italy and is quite the popular game. It's also a sandbox game like GTA. And I never said anything about having it in Italian language?

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/7102/grand-theft-auto-iv/

4million copies sold in America(south and North) and 3.9M copies sold in Europe.

 

[The Hitch]

Assassin's creed takes place in Italy and is quite the popular game. It's also a sandbox game like GTA. And I never said anything about having it in Italian language?

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And GTA if you ever played it, is different.

The Radio is an essential part of the game.

Interaction with the city is an important part. Pedestrians will talk to you. Shopoweners will talk to you. In missions conversations can go up to 5 minutes.

Advertisements, visual and audio parody the American way of life.

If its set in Italy than all if not most of this would have to be in Italian no? Or is there a region of Italy where English is the oficial language?

 

[El Pistolero]

And GTA if you ever played it, is different.

The Radio is an essential part of the game.

Interaction with the city is an important part. Pedestrians will talk to you. Shopoweners will talk to you. In missions conversations can go up to 5 minutes.

Advertisements, visual and audio parody the American way of life.

If its set in Italy than all if not most of this would have to be in Italian no? Or is there a region of Italy where English is the oficial language?

Are you really arguing about realism here in a GTA game? They play English songs on Italian radio's as well by the way and no one would mind Italian songs as well. I don't really see any problem with an Italian based game being in English. So many games do that. There are also many games out there dubbed in different languages. You can also make use of subtitles.

Interaction with the city is also important in Assassin's creed, pedestrians will talk to you as will shop owners and it also has missions.

The Godfather III is mostly in Italian and that's one of the most popular American movies.

 

[The Hitch]

Are you really arguing about realism here in a GTA game? They play English songs on Italian radio's as well by the way and no one would mind Italian songs as well. I don't really see any problem with an Italian based game being in English. So many games do that. There are also many games out there dubbed in different languages.

The whole thing is a Parody on American Popular culture.

The things the characters say, the things the bill boards say, the way the places are named, the way characters from different backgrounds behave.

And you come back to me with (oh they play English songs in Italy). Pff, please.

Rockstar spends 6-7 years making a GTa game, researching everything. For Vice City they spent millions on the soundtrack alone.

None of this would work in Italian since most GTA fans speak English not Italian, and wouldnt understand any of it. It would be 7 years wasted.

 

[The Hitch]

The Godfather III is mostly in Italian and that's one of the most popular American movies.

No its one of the most mocked American movies.

Maybe you just watched the Italian version because from what I saw it was mostly in English.

And a movie only lasts 2 hours. The viewer sees what the director wants him to see.

GtA lasts hundreds of hours. Having the whole game dubbed, not being able to understand the radio, not being able to understand any jokes, not being able to identify with the surroundings, yeah i dont see American teens buying this.

 

[El Pistolero]

The whole thing is a Parody on American Popular culture.

The things the characters say, the things the bill boards say, the way the places are named, the way characters from different backgrounds behave.

And you come back to me with (oh they play English songs in Italy). Pff, please.

Rockstar spends 6-7 years making a GTa game, researching everything. For Vice City they spent millions on the soundtrack alone.

None of this would work in Italian since most GTA fans speak English not Italian, and wouldnt understand any of it. It would be 7 years wasted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Mission_Packs

GTA has taken place in London before. So if you're really that worried about language, it could easily take place somewhere in Great Britain.

I don't hear anyone complaining that Rome total war is not in Latin/Greek. I really do think you underestimate the American audience here. After all, why would 4 million Europeans buy GTA games if people are apparently only capable of caring about their own nation?

And USA is a nation of immigrants after all... And looking at the amount of idiots that watch Jersey Shore, there must be some interest for Italians in the USA. La Dolce Vita was also a success in the USA and that movie is in Italian as well.

The Americans have dubbed so many things, they don't even give a damn. Dragonball Z(a lot of jokes destroyed because of the English dub), Naruto, Kenshin Himura, One piece, Final Fantasy, etc are all Japanese and are immensely popular in the USA.

 

[Thomsena]

You'd be surprised about how inept the mother company(Take-Two interactive) is.

Take for example the PS2 and PS3. Sony sells those things at a loss. They earn money from first-, second- and third party games. First-party games are games they make them self, second-party games are games made by other companies but published by Sony(or MS/Nintendo) and third-party games are games made other companies and published by them. You'd be surprised at how expensive it is to actually make a decent game. Take-two interactive is not doing so well at the moment. The money they earn from games like GTA is keeping them alive, but for how long?

You have still failed to give any source that Rockstar should have a loss on the gta-series...

 

[El Pistolero]

You have still failed to give any source that Rockstar should have a loss on the gta-series...

Their situation at the end of 2008 when GTA IV was released:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/take-two-reports-profit-reenlists-gta-creators-for-new-ip-6202435

Their situation in 2009:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/10/take-two-profits-up-slightly-in-q109-gta-accounts-for-40-of-re/

Their situation in 2011:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Id=1755783&SM=1

They'll most likely post a loss as well in 2012 and well until GTA V is released again. Combine that with the high production costs these games have and you've destroyed a lot of revenue generated by GTA IV.

 

[Thomsena]

You still haven't showed me anything. You said that the GTA-series were a loss for Rockstar.. I don't care one bit about Take-Two. Their loss is due to the release of alot of other games. I don't care about how Take-Two's other games have managed. I'm talking about Rockstar and their making of GTA.

"They'll most likely post a loss as well in 2012 and well until GTA V is released again"

You pretty much admitted it in this very quote.

 

[El Pistolero]

You still haven't showed me anything. You said that the GTA-series were a loss for Rockstar.. I don't care one bit about Take-Two. Their loss is due to the release of alot of other games. I don't care about how Take-Two's other games have managed. I'm talking about Rockstar and their making of GTA.

"They'll most likely post a loss as well in 2012 and well until GTA V is released again"

You pretty much admitted it in this very quote.

Take-Two Interactive is paying all the bills. Rockstar belongs to Take-Two Interactive. I said the mother company managed to waste all the money they earned from games like GTA because of inept management. You can't talk about a profit if your using it to pay the bills.

So, I don't see why GTA should not change its formula from time to time to keep things fresh(after all San Andreas sold more copies than GTA IV). Like I said, I wouldn't mind if they ever used a European city as inspiration or any other continent for that matter. GTA: Cape Town

I don't think people would all of a sudden stop buying GTA because it doesn't take place in a fictional American city. GTA is big brand name and will sell millions of copies because of its name alone already, so why not risk some radical changes from time to time to keep things fresh. It worked out fine with Red Dead Redemption. Sandbox games are Rockstar's niche, but does it always need to be an American city? Nah.

 

[The Hitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Mission_Packs

GTA has taken place in London before. So if you're really that worried about language, it could easily take place somewhere in Great Britain.

I don't hear anyone complaining that Rome total war is not in Latin/Greek. I really do think you underestimate the American audience here. After all, why would 4 million Europeans buy GTA games if people are apparently only capable of caring about their own nation?

GTA London was an earlier totaly different version of GTA. It was birds eye view, stories werent a key part of the game, its more similar to tetris than the current GTA games, which started with the ground breaking GTA III.

I dont care about all your other games. GTA today is about authenticity. They spend years and years on research and development just to make everything seem as real as possible. And im not talking about the violence which should very well be cartoon like, but the setting, the story and the experience.

Dragon Ball Z isnt based on authenticity is it

So having a game in Italy but everyone speaking English, well that may work for your Rome total war game or whatever, but GTA isnt a series that would do that. If it was in Italy it would have to be in Italian.

Lets not forget also that most of the developers etc, live in the US so it is far easier for them to parody the culture they know and breathe.
It would be very difficult for them to parody Japanese popular culture. And if they did few of their gamers would understand it.

And USA is a nation of immigrants after all... And looking at the amount of idiots that watch Jersey Shore, there must be some interest for Italians in the USA. La Dolce Vita was also a success in the USA and that movie is in Italian as well.

The Americans have dubbed so many things, they don't even give a damn. Dragonball Z(a lot of jokes destroyed because of the English dub), Naruto, Kenshin Himura, One piece, Final Fantasy, etc are all Japanese and are immensely popular in the USA

Are you trying to be a comedian? Jurrasic Park and Ice Age 3 were also a popular film, should they set the next GTA in prehistoric times then?

GTA is different from films, as I said films last 1 100th of how long gta lasts. And other games are also different. Fifa is quite succesful despite the fact that the entire setting is 90m by 50m.

Should gta also try such a small setting if it worked for Fifa?

No, because GTA is a totaly different game, to Fifa, to Dragon ball z and to all the other examples you spit out as if they meant something.

 

[Thomsena]

Take-Two Interactive is paying all the bills. Rockstar belongs to Take-Two Interactive. I said the mother company managed to waste all the money they earned from games like GTA because of inept management. You can't talk about a profit if your using it to pay the bills.

No. This is what you said:

"Rockstar needs to find a different concept in their games. They're not making any money of Grand Theft Auto anyway: they actually managed to make a huge loss."

This is totally wrong which you already have admitted when you wrote
that GTA is the game Take-Two depend on to pay their bills. I don't care if Take-Two is the mother company or something else. I don't care if they failed with other games or have a inept management. This is about Rockstar and the game GTA and GTA has made nothing but profit. Take-Two's other projects whether they fail or succeed has nothing to do with the postulate you wrote. Simple.