Guess Who - Game

[Armchair cyclist]

Sergey (Sergeyevich) Lagutin is correct: I was goign to add "outside his adopted country" to the answer about a third name if people remained stuck.

I had Fischer as my pick a few weeks ago.

So:
Male?
Active?
(and, because it is LS) Does one need to be incredibly obsessive about cycling, even by the standards of this forum, to have heard of him/her?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yes
No
I would hope it's not, but you never know. It's not Nguyễn Tán Hoài, who I was tempted to go for recently, but seeing as it turns out there's actually not as many people as I thought there might be that have got into following the HTV Cup in the absence of any other (real) racing - YMMV on the virtual racing of course, but I just can't get excited by it at all, whereas I've actually got really into the HTV Cup - I'll take a rain check on pushing the boat out too much on that type of rider for a bit.

 

[del1962]

Born on or after 1/1/1975?
Ever started a Grand Tour?
Born within what is now the European Union?

 

[sir fly]

Alive?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Male
Active
You have a chance of having heard of him
Not born on/after 1/1/75
He has started a Grand Tour
He was born within the boundaries of the current European Union
He is alive

 

[del1962]

Born on or after 1/1/1950?
Has he ever started Paris-Roubaix?
Has he won a race (including stages) that would have been part of 2020 World Tour?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

He is born on or after 1/1/1950
He has never started Paris-Roubaix
Nor has he ever won a race that would have been part of the 2020 World Tour.

 

[sir fly]

Participated at the Olympics?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

No

 

[RedheadDane]

Alive?

I sure would hope that an active guy is still alive!

 

[Finn84]

From the very first hints I was pretty sure it is Davide Rebellin but later hints called him off.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Splat.

If you look at my answers to "Male? Active?" I wrote "Yes. No."

And then like a complete moron I wrote "Active" when I summarised afterwards.

He's not active.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Home nation host to a GT or monument?
Top ten in a GT?
Stage win in a GC?

 

[del1962]

Born on or after 18/11/1962?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I assume that's stage win in a GT and have answered accordingly.

His home nation does not host a GT or a monument
He has been top 10 in a GT
He has not won a GT stage
He was born on or after 18/11/1962.

 

[Finn84]

Did the rider achieve GT top 10 between 2000 and 2009?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

No

 

[Finn84]

Is the rider from a country where German is official language?

 

[del1962]

Born on or after 1/1/1970?
Top 5 in a grand tour?
From former Warsaw Pact country?

 

[del1962]

Yes, sorry for hitting GC instead of GT.
Is it to be taken in this game then that "won a race" includes "won a stage"? I'm not sure that has ever been clear...
Or, looking again, do you mean that the answer below that comment was answered on that assumption?

Libertine Seguros answered this question of mine "Has he won a race (including stages) that would have been part of 2020 World Tour? " which includes GT stages

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Libertine Seguros answered this question of mine "Has he won a race (including stages) that would have been part of 2020 World Tour? " which includes GT stages

OK, thanks, I looked at the answer, which abbreviated the question, rather than the original question. I also realised that my uncertainty made no sense when the answer to race was no and to stage was yes.

So stage wins are counted if the question simply asks about "wins", but not if the question is race wins: is that our convention?

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Niklas Axelsson

 

[del1962]

Lol just about to post that name

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Yep: looked at the GC top tens 1985 to 99 for the Vuelta, then for the Tour, and finally for the Giro, so he appeared on the very last list that I had to look at...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Not from a country where German is an official language.
Born on or after 1/1/1970
Never top 5 in a Grand Tour
Not from a former Warsaw Pact country

I would say that I include stages as wins (at least individual stage wins. TTT wins are a bit more contentious I guess) as they do go on the win stats and are crucial for, e.g. sprinters who will only contest GCs at bonus second festivals like the World Ports Classic but might not have won any one-day races.

He is Niklas Axelsson, by the way. Fairly obscure by this point due to his late start and two brief moments of prominence between time spent on the naughty step, but prominent enough to find given he has a GT top 10 and a Monument podium to his name.