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GW501516 for performance enhancement.

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diorgen said:
Froome is going to pop soon
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If Sky really are as professional as they claim, they should have switched to undetectable analogs before Froome's uprising began :D

I also watched that nice french GW501516+AICAR doc by french tv on youtube, very funny how boyer basically accuses wiggins
 
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The problem with retro-testing is, how do we know they are actually trying to catch everyone and not avoiding retesting samples from certain big names? Not a whole lot of transparency on this issue.
 
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The problem with retro-testing is, how do we know they are actually trying to catch everyone and not avoiding retesting samples from certain big names? Not a whole lot of transparency on this issue.

Never was and never will be.

Sky are firmly in bed with UCI.
 
More Strides than Rides said:
Hope thats not the extent of the "ongoing cases."...

It follow the typical pattern.

1) UCI warns riders about a drug currently being used.
2) Riders from the big teams move to the next drug.
3) A few small fry riders no one cares about test positive.
4) Repeat.
 
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If no big names go down, I will assume riders were warned before the introduction of this test and their old samples were not re-tested. Such is the credibility of the UCI.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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It's very interesting reading the logs on the steroid / weights forums. Positive reviews, 5/5 would use again. :eek:

Interesting in a car crash sort of way.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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eg :

I've used almost everything else for fat loss before (with the exception of DNP )... clen , T3, ECA, HGH (whatever kits I got that were real), and now this. I'll compare it for sure. Now, I paid out about $300 for this 45 day supply (three 60ml bottles at 5mg/ml). I can definitely say that if what i'm seeing is just the beginning of its fat loss - and that i'm not seeing/imagining things - that looks to be already superior than clen, ECA, and T3 in a cost:benefit ratio. I want to see if this will stand up to (or surpass) HGH. Because if it does... then I wouldn't mind paying out $300 for a month and a half supply of this stuff vs $500 or more for a 1 month supply of HGH.
 
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Got to the end of that log and his endurance went up doing nothing but weights and it even went so far as to counteract expected endurance loss due to the tren (?) he was on also.

Seems dosage needs to be worked out for fat loss, and the mantra of "different people respond differently" remained - particularly with respect to fat loss.

GSK discontinued development in 2006 (allegedly), so to my mind, GW501516 is "The Clear" 2.0, coming out of research chem labs and the like.

Wiki pages says cancer caused by all / any dosages. They were doing 2-5mg/kg/day for mice and seeing cancer (?) where as these guys are doing 5mg-40mg and weigh 90-100kg+, around 1-4% of the mice study amounts.

There's no PCT (post cycle therapy) either - just drop it. And it's not a stimulant, so heart racing and other sides associated with stims are not evident.

These weight lifter / body builder guys would have to be prime physiological study candidates. Some of them monitor everything to the nth detail.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
GSK discontinued development in 2006 (allegedly), so to my mind, GW501516 is "The Clear" 2.0, coming out of research chem labs and the like.

Completely agree, for anyone who doesn't know same story a dangerous drug that has performance enhancing effects but was discontinued (in the case of the clear due to liver toxicity issues).
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
GSK discontinued development in 2006 (allegedly), so to my mind, GW501516 is "The Clear" 2.0, coming out of research chem labs and the like.

The black market product has been named somewhere and now I can't find it....might need to go scouring twitter...
 
Sep 29, 2012
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will10 said:
The black market product has been named somewhere and now I can't find it....might need to go scouring twitter...

Endurobol. Was mentioned in that body building log. Cute name :D
 
I want to ride for the BCR Pizza Hut team. Free pizza?

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-riders-are-from-same-BCR-Pizza-Hut-team.aspx

Following yesterday’s news that four Costa Rican riders have tested positive, the UCI has confirmed to VeloNation that the substance in question was indeed the banned substance GW501516, and has named the riders concerned.

“The UCI advised four Costa Rican riders in the first week of April 2013, Vargas Barrantes, Mudarra Segura, Morales Castillo and Villalobos Azofeifa that they were provisionally suspended,” UCI Communications manager Devra Pitt Gétaz said today, responding to questions on the matter.

“The decision to provisionally suspend the riders was made in response to a report from the WADA accredited laboratory indicating an Adverse Analytical Finding of metabolite GW1516 sulfone – Metabolic Modulator in a urine sample collected from them in an in-competition test in December at the Vuelta Internacional a Costa Rica 2012.”

Three of the riders are from the BCR Pizza Hut team. Paulo Vargas Barrantes took stages two and eleven in the Vuelta a Costa Rica, and also finished ninth overall. The 33 year old is a former Vuelta a Guatemala and national road race championship winner.

Allan Jose Morales Castillo is 24 and finished fourth overall in the 2012 race, the highest of the four riders. He also nabbed three top five stage finishes. In 2010 he was runner-up in the national road race championships.

Pablo Mudarra Segura took the national road race title last year and had six top ten stage placings in the Vuelta a Costa Rica, as well as taking eighth overall. He is the youngest of the quartet at just 21 years of age.

Steven Villalobos Azofeifa is from the Coronado squad. He previously tested positive for Clomifen in the 2009 Vuelta a Costa Rica, incurring a two year suspension. That ended on March 24 last year, and after finishing back in sixteenth place in the national championships, he improved his level for the Vuelta a Costa Rica, where he won stage twelve, picked up third on stage six and finished sixth overall. Now 26 years of age, he’s facing a potential lifetime ban for a second offence.

Like the other three riders, he presumably must await the results of the B sample analysis.

Asked about rumours that two unnamed Colombian riders had also returned positive A samples for GW501516, Devra Pitt Gétaz clarified that the UCI ‘has not opened any procedure against any Columbian riders for this substance.’